Posted by Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] on 07/03/06 18:09

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:04:00 GMT, "PTravel"
<ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:


>> I'm not
>> clear that "consumer level" is relevant to the discussion, which was
>> about what can be used to generate this effect. PS is one of probably
>> a wide range of options, but it benefits from ease of use, so if he
>> wants quick results then it's a good trial reference point.
>
>The OP has Premiere Pro, which is capable, not only of doing the basic
>effect, but offering infinitely more control over the process, including the


OK agreed on that, for sure.


>ability, for example, to handle any resampling artifacts, camera position,
>etc. WMV is a lossy format, so you're introducing an additional layer of
>coding/transcoding to get it into and out of the NLE, which will further
>degrade the image.
>>
>>
>>>THEN import it into his NLE to add the video?
>>
>> Video is video - I don't see the problem
>
>Video isn't video. DV-codec-encoded video can be imported and exported from
>Premiere without loss. WMV-codec-encoded video cannot.


OK So I wasn't aware Premiere would transcode it internally - my
mistake. The project does sound like a family oriented project though,
rather than a broadcast scale project - obviously we try to get the
best quality possible, but there are limits to the minutinae needed
for items which aren't meant for wide distribution.


>rec.video.production. No offense, but a recommendation to use a consumer
>product that will produce degraded video compared to what the OP has is
>really off-topic.


Probably I'd have to disagree that it's specifically OT for this group
I haven't seen a specific charter posted, but lots of people drift by
from all levels of experience asking for advice. The answer depends on
the poster, agreed the OP has a greater capability than most users,
but he's stated not to operate a Pro level facility.



>which sounds fine even on a good home theater audio setup. WMV, on the
>other hand, was designed for high compression rates and small file size so
>that video can be shipped around the internet easily (WMV9 isn't relevant to


Aww c'mon now ! That's horses for courses, I wouldn't expect him to
export to email-quality here. WMV9 has many profile levels up to very
high bitrates, just as MPEG2 does - obviously not many are usable for
photo story output, so that goes OT. To be honest, WMV9 and WMA at low
bitrates are dreadful codecs, WMA only really performs acceptably
above 64-96 kbps for example. Even H264 struggles at low bitrates (but
look at the results near DVD bitrates ;-)


>By accident, I had hit "reply" instead of "reply group," when I responded to
>the OP so my response went directly to him. This is what I wrote:
>
>"You don't have to pan across photographs with your camera. Import them in
>to Premiere Pro. It works best with Adobe's PSD proprietary format. Keep
>your resolution to no greater than 4000 x 4000 pixels. Drag the image to
>the timeline. Click on the Effects Control tab in the Monitor WIndow and
>select Motion. Using Position and the key frame control you can move
>around the image, and using Scale and the key frame control you can zoom in
>and out. This is the easiest way to do it, though there are other tools in
>Premiere Pro that will accomplish the same thing."


I'm glad you mailed him useful Permiere advice though pity I missed
them the first time round, looks like a useful technique ;-)


Cheers - Neil
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