Posted by Steve King on 07/17/06 03:51

"doc" <doc@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:6fDug.3145$WF6.2755@trndny06...
> PANASONIC AG-DVC30 or AG-DVC60
>
> <riclanders@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151605882.679997.146990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> PTravel wrote:
>>> "Mr. Tapeguy" <mr.tapeguy@pro-tape.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1151590769.813392.206070@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> > riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Used Canon GL2's and GL1's are selling for under $1000.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can they do the job?
>>> >>
>>> >> ric
>>> >
>>> > They can "do the job." If you want XLR connections you'll need to get
>>> > an adaptor from Studio One or Beachtek.
>>> >
>>> > PTravel gave some excellent references including dvinfo.net which is
>>> > run by my friend Chris Hurd and considered one of the foremost
>>> > discussion areas for pro dv cameras. If you want a broader scope you
>>> > can try camcorderinfo.com.
>>>
>>> Chris is a great guy, isn't he?
>>>
>>> I'll offer my usual caution about camcorderinfo.com. Robin Liss has,
>>> sometimes, some rather bizarre takes on equipment. I'm not sure if it's
>>> because she reviews from the standpoint of the casual consumer, or
>>> because
>>> she is reluctant to offend the sources of the cameras that she reviews
>>> (she
>>> drools over new equipment, just as we all do). Usually, buried within
>>> the
>>> reviews, you can find the pertinent information, e.g. it may sound like
>>> a
>>> rave review, but you'll see something a page down like, "however, in low
>>> light color saturation is reduced and some grain shows up." If you look
>>> at
>>> the sample frame capture, you'll see that color saturation is reduced to
>>> the
>>> point where there is no color, just grays, the grain is the size of golf
>>> balls, and video gain is so reduced that it looks black construction
>>> paper.
>>> What the review should say is, "this is a good camcorder if you're only
>>> going to use it in very bright sunlight, but is unusable indoors or at
>>> night." Of course, she'll never publish that on her website.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > If you buy a used unit (and we have a couple by the way) I would be
>>> > extremely cautious. 4 out of the last 5 pieces of gear I have
>>> > purchased used have been DOA for various reasons. If you get one I
>>> > would pay a little more from a reputable source.
>>>
>>> Obviously, very good advice. One additional point: Sony will, usually,
>>> repair its gear for a flat rate. For example, it will repair cameras in
>>> its
>>> prosumer line, which includes the VX2000/2100 and PD-150/170 for a flat
>>> fee
>>> of $575 (provided the camera hasn't been deliberately abused or
>>> submerged in
>>> water). A broken PD-170 for under $1,000, after a repair job by Sony,
>>> will
>>> yield a $3,000 camera for a little over $1,500.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > But before you go with Canon compare the features/specs with similarly
>>> > priced units and make sure that's what you want. If you find one you
>>> > like that's slightly above your price range let me know and I'll see
>>> > if
>>> > we can get a B-stock unit or demo for you.
>>> >
>>> > Craig
>>> >
>>> > http://www.pro-tape.com
>>> >
>>
>> Here we go again. Every few months I come to this newsgroup, ask the
>> same question and get the same royal run-around.
>>
>> If I wanted to research the question I'd use the sources mentioned. I
>> was looking for a name, not all this back and forth about where I
>> should go or what I shouldn't do and how many angels somebody got on
>> the head of a pin. Honestly, the header of this thread is plain enough
>> -- "Best $1500..."
>>
>> What's the problem?
>>
>> Give me a name. Save the Fourth of July speeches for Tuesday. :)
>>
>> and I know I'm burning bridges, but I got to make a purchase and some
>> of you pompous blowhards are ruining my day.
>>
>> Give me a freakin' name already.
>>
>> Rant turned off.
>>
>> ricland

Rant on--- This is a newsgroup. It is not your personal answer service. If
you post a question and expect anything other than a lively debate and a
variety of differing opinions your nuts. Or did you expect a few dozen
people to all get together and vote up a single consensus answer. "What's
the problem?" You're expectations are the problem. Get over it.

Of course, the correct answer to your question is a used Sony VX2000. If
you don't like the answer, bite me!

Thanks. I needed that.

Steve King

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