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Posted by riclanders on 07/22/06 23:16
Bob Ford wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:28:36 GMT, Bill Fright
> <billfright@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Bob Ford wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 21 Jul 2006 22:36:12 -0700, riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>William Davis wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>In article <1153493202.410834.326570@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>> riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Ty Ford wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:31:52 -0400, riclanders@gmail.com wrote
> >>>>>>>(in article <1153485112.655687.178680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>):
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I'm hearing the Senneiser 300 is a great mike except for its delicate
> >>>>>>>>>cable which is prone to go bad if stretched.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Is there a similar quality mike with a more durable cable for under
> >>>>>>>>>$200?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>ric
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>May be able to answer my own question here. The Rode video mic at $149.
> >>>>>>>>seems to be a much better deal and the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID at $199.
> >>>>>>>>seems to be better yet.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>ric
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>If you do a lot of run and gun shooting, the VideoMic will wiggle audibly.
> >>>>>>>If
> >>>>>>>shooting on a tripod or slow handheld, it's very nice.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ty Ford
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>What about the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>ric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
> >>>>>>>stuff are at www.tyford.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>ric
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We're all trying to be gentle and kind here, but it's difficult because
> >>>>>you keep trying to get us to validate something we're just not
> >>>>>comfortable validating.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In my seminars, one typical audience ³light bulb moment is when I do the
> >>>>>following exercise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'd get the audience to close their eyes - then I'd announce ³Hi, my
> >>>>>name is Bill Davis and I've been making video professionally for more
> >>>>>than 15 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Then I'd ask them to open their eyes and I'd silently mouth the words ³I
> >>>>>live in Scottsdale, Arizona on an old horse property the barn of which
> >>>>>I've converted into a purpose-built video production studio
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Then I'd ask them to tell me which ³presentation mode they got the most
> >>>>>information out of. AUDIO without VIDEO or VIDEO without AUDIO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The point is that in most typical videos the AUDIO track actually does
> >>>>>more of the communications ³heavy lifting than does the VIDEO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If you want to rest that component of your work on an inexpensive mic
> >>>>>with a suspect cable, hey man, you go right ahead.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Its simply that most of us would NEVER consider any mic that didn't have
> >>>>>a long, solid, verifiable track record of performance in actual field
> >>>>>conditions in these circumstances.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Maybe the RODE gizmo is the next great field production mic and we just
> >>>>>don't know about it. Or maybe it's a fragile gizmo with a 100% margin,
> >>>>>lots of marketing bucks, and no place in any videographers bag. We don't
> >>>>>know, because we haven't used it and likely NEVER WILL use it. Because
> >>>>>our time and work is too important for trial and error and there are
> >>>>>already time tested products that we KNOW work correctly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You want to try it out. Go right ahead. If you and a couple of dozen
> >>>>>other guys start raving about it, it MIGHT earn a place in our bags -
> >>>>>provided one of our EV-635s or Beyer M-58s or Sony 672s or one of the
> >>>>>other couple of dozen mics that we've all had knocking around in our
> >>>>>bags and that are still working flawlessly after 15 or 20 years without
> >>>>>a failure gets run over by a road grader or something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Nothing wrong with asking these kind of questions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Nothing wrong with not taking the answers and doing it your own way,
> >>>>>either.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You want to learn though your own trial and error - have at it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Most of us had to at some point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Welcome to the club.
> >>>>
> >>>>Not to put too fine a point on on it, but the people at Dvcreators.net
> >>>>have now think the
> >>>>RODE Videomic at $149 offers more value than the Senneiser 300 at
> >>>>$199. They, in fact, no longer recommend the Senneiser 300.
> >>>>
> >>>>Is your point I should ignore this and select the Senneiser 300 over
> >>>>the Rode anyway?
> >>>>
> >>>>ric
> >>>
> >>>My Gawd man, how many different people and how many different ways
> >>>does someone have to say it to you.
> >>>If you have your heart set on it, buy it.....
> >>>
> >>>Bob Ford
> >>>Images In Motion
> >>>www.imagesinmotion.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When question, Bob: Are you off your medication again or is it just
> >> that time of the month?
> >>
> >> ric
> >>
> >
> >well it looks like the amature just burned his trial membership with the
> >experienced players. Actually I thought you guys treated ric pretty well
> >considering he didn't appear to actually understand anything you guys wrote.
> >
> >bill
> You got that right Bill!
>
> At my age I got over having my time of the month long ago.
>
> I also don't use med's, drugs, alcohol or any other mind altering
> substances, nor do I have any tats or body piercings.
>
> I've just been quite content running my little video production biz
> for over 22 years now so I'm afraid Riccy is on his own.
>
> A respected pro on this group sent me a private e-mail comparing him
> to old Conduit;"-)
> Bob Ford
> Images In Motion
> www.imagesinmotion.com
I should say I don't believe all the negative hype about this newsgroup
being composed of pompous blowhards who have turned running-off newbies
into an art form. I lurked before posting and concluded this assessment
of the group is not entirely true.
But, as a fellow pointed out to me in email, the knee-jerk answers you
get here are often out-dated or not the best for newbies. This thread
may illustrate that. Mind you, no one is disputing the regulars who
replied are seasoned pros with more knowledge about video production
than God; the point the fellow who emailed me was making, I think, is
that each took it as an act of subversion that a lowly newbie dare
question his word.
I suppose the fellow who emailed me this opinion had a point. In his
email he also referred to the respondents as small-brained wedding
photographers and bankruptcy-prone shop keepers, names I feel also
exaggerate.
Still, I agree things could have been handled more maturely.
ric
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