Posted by Smarty on 07/23/06 00:39

AnthonyR,

I owned several of those 8mm and Super8 film cameras, and did indeed find 3
minutes of recording to be quite adequate for a lot of situations at that
time. I would love to have a small HD camera, since lugging around my FX-1
is a big pain. The really small standard def MiniDV cameras seem like a
better choice today, all things considered, since the Sanyo picture quality
is quite poor and the low light performance is just plain terrible. Most
casual photographers will find this to be severely limiting indoors. The day
will hopefully arrive soon when a true small HD camcorder arrives with (I'm
guessing) a 40 to 60 GB hard disk. Since the latest perpendicular recording
drives in this 60 GB size fit into iPods and other pocket devices, and are
quite affordable and rugged, they will be a natural solution for people who
want excellent video quality and portability in a camcorder.

I think I should start saving my money........It shouldn't be too long given
that the hardware is mostly off-the-shelf today, including the sensors, HD
LSI chipsets, hard drives, etc.

Smarty


"AnthonyR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ccuwg.1315$v82.944@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>I agree with both of you, but remember when people would buy home movie
>cameras that shot of 8mm film?
> 3 minutes seemed to be enough back then to capture IMPORTANT (being the
> key word) family moments, not hours and hours of drool footage.
> So for those who do it professionally and will edit those hours and hours
> down to a few minutes of action, this type camera is no good.
> But what about possible for those who want a lightweight travel companion
> to capture something rather than have no memories?
> Just a thought where a 15 min of video would be useful.
>
> Also, what about capturing to mpeg-2 dvd quality? 4gb would be equivelant
> to a 2 hour dvd no?
> Possibly enough for home consumer use.
>
> AnthonyR.
>
> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:Su2dnYqOlK_mqVzZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>I agree doc. The camera has gotten relatively poor reviews, and the
>>downloads I have seen confirm these opinions. Using flash memory will make
>>a lot more sense when really large cards appear and prices drop much
>>further.
>>
>> Smarty
>>
>>
>> "doc" <doc@anywhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:qf6wg.144$qZ2.118@trndny01...
>>> and at 15 mins for $129 that equates to $8.60 a minute and it hardly
>>> noticable to the average JQ (John Q Public) [see our post on video
>>> quality field survey tests in another thread] so to us that's a bad
>>> idea. hey don't get me wrong, i love the card idea and ability to
>>> transfer but 40 gig would be more appropriate or even 20 or 30 so that
>>> one could stay on course with some real work instead of having to have a
>>> pocket full of cards and chase the identity of each :o)
>>>
>>> DrD
>>>
>>> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>>> news:X_OdnZ9xtId_ByLZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>>> 4GB for 15 minutes does work out to 32GB for a two hour
>>>> movie.....essentially what HD-DVD and BluRay provide / claim. I
>>>> seriously doubt that the camera can either capture or record at this
>>>> rate (35 Mbits/sec), but regardless, a 4 GB card should more than
>>>> adequately hold 15 minutes of HD video.
>>>>
>>>> Smarty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "doc" <doc@anywhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ERCvg.11963$Te.5403@trndny02...
>>>>> really 4 GB sounds reasonable for about a quarter of an hour of video
>>>>> recording to you? not to me. we must have a different set of
>>>>> ecomics.
>>>>>
>>>>> drd
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rick Merrill" <rick0.merrill@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:zKOdnZA-8uZlmTrZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> doc wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wow at least the 4gb card is reasonable . . NOT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> drd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fuzzieotter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1146362125.574241.232060@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You may have heard by now of the Sanyo VPC-HD1, a revolutionary new
>>>>>>>>camcorder that records in 720p to SD flash memory (up to 88 minutes
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>HD using a 4GB card). It can also record in SD, shoots 5.1MP stills
>>>>>>>>(it can shoot stills at the same time your shooting video). You
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>just plug the card into your computer, or plug the camcorder into
>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>computer via USB and it is recognized as a drive. Its so easy to
>>>>>>>>copy
>>>>>>>>clips and pictures off the camcorder. So much easier than dealing
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>tape! It can also act as a webcam with certain software. It has a
>>>>>>>>gorgeous flip-out OLED screen and tons of features. It's tiny too.
>>>>>>>>Here are some links.
>>>>>>>>Get it at: http://www.dvnation.com/hd1.html
>>>>>>>>See pictures and video taken with the cam at
>>>>>>>>http://www.dvnation.com/hd1pics.html .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4GB card for $129 - sounds damn reasonable to me! Get two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I want to know is how fast can it offload to a computer???
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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