Posted by NunYa Bidness on 12/09/05 15:49

On 9 Dec 2005 06:37:27 -0800, "Goro" <evilninjax@yahoo.com> Gave us:

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>NunYa Bidness wrote:
>> On 8 Dec 2005 07:07:11 -0800, needin4mation@gmail.com Gave us:
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>> >Well, if he dumped them now, he might get more money out of them. He
>> >won't get near as much in two years when everything HD DVD BR is sorted
>> >out. Of course, if it is more than two years, then well, I guess he
>> >won't have a lot to watch for a while.
>>
>> If the current resolution of DVDs and *that* library of transfers
>> took as many years as it did, how long do you think that
>> re-transferring that same library to a new, higher res, longer capture
>> time per frame masters will take? There were long lines at the
>> companies which performed the original DVD library of transfers.
>>
>> You pretty much screw yourself pitching away titles that you don't
>> have any clue as to when they will be appearing in the new format.
>>
>> Several years, it will take. Many titles will not even get a new
>> transfer treatment as well. There will simply be a BR or whatever
>> release of the same source media at no improvement in resolution.
>> Count on it.
>
>This is too true. The first SEVERAL YEARS of BR, you will have to be
>extremely careful when replacing a DVD with a BRDisc. Likely, you'll
>have to check to see if it's from a HDMaster or whether it's from the
>previous master. In the latter case, it's likely to look the same as
>(or very close to) an upsampled 480p SD DVD (sans macroblocking,
>htouhg, right?) Still, for newer movies and latter day movies (some
>DVDs tout "From an HD master") it might be worth it. MIGHT.

That is the thing. The telecine studios that do the current
conversion will take even longer to do these conversions and the new
movies always get to butt in line. This means that a LOT of current
media will get re-released from the same masters. That means no
improvement, or none that will be discernable.
>
>And then there's the diminsihing returns for (say) CASABLANCA and that
>huge catalog of classic movies that i love.

Having them already on Laser disc and DVD is quite fine. There are
still a few DVDs I have yet to get as replacements for some of my
laser disc titles. There are some that will never get released as
well. Note that the frame stop access discs have yet to be replicated
in DVD form. I have a laser disc of overhead US shots that I know
will never get made on DVD as one can simply log on to google earth to
get even closer views! But when I had that fucker... I had the
shit... and was the only one that could show folks their house! I had
many an eye popped moment... :-]

> Unlikely that (a) they'll
>get to it anytime soon and (b) that it will look any better. But with
>a higher bit rate and not macroblocking, maybe it would look better?

I don't know... maybe. With the huge capacity involved, one would
think that they could make discs with no compression at all.

>> You are screwing yourself to dump a collection of discs because
>> something new will be coming out. Especially when you don't even know
>> the time line for it.
>>
>> DVDs are going to be around for quite a while, and they are quite
>> high enough in resolution for nearly all applications.
>
>I agree with this sentiment.

My collection was made for a reason. There is no reason or desire
on my part to sell them for a fraction of what I paid for them in some
lame effort to recoup some tid bit of cash to start my next
collection.

I will start said collection (maybe). But my current libraries go
nowhere.

I ALSO have every computer I ever assembled or bought. From my
first to my current. Several thousand dollars worth of gear. Hehe...
you'd know I would pick the one hobby in all the world that has the
worst depreciation rate known to man! Computers!

I do have an original 10MB Tandon Hard drive though. MAYBE one day,
it will be worth something even close to half its original cost of
over $800. Doubtful though.

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