Posted by Linea Recta on 09/08/06 19:04

"Roger L. Beeman" <beeman@nwlink.com> schreef in bericht
news:yp8zmdchecf.fsf@koishi.subako.org...
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.invalid> writes:
>
> > Problems started when I couldn't get DVD+R media 8 speed or below any
more.
> > All brands seem to have changed to 16 speed.
>
> Try PriceGrabber.com: {beware the line wrap}
>
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/form_keyword=8X%20DVD%20Media/topcat_id=/page_id=2/lo_p=0/hi_p=0/popup1%5B%5D=30:204


Thanks for your reply. Your link points to good priced media, but I never
dare to buy/pay anything through the internet, don't have a credit card etc.
Yesterday I had to go abroad and luckily there I succeeded in getting my
hands on 8 speed DVD+R media, although an unknown brand (Ultron). Still I
decided to buy two 25-disc spindles (30 euro). I just burned and verified a
disc succesfully as usual, so I think I'm out of trouble for the moment.



>
> If you can't get that to work, Enter "8X DVD Media Storage" at the home
> page. Then select DVD+R under "Media Type" in the column at the left.
> I found 18 results.
>
> > This device has considerable problems writing to 16 speed media. Some
discs
> > are written, others are consistently refused. (message: "illegal disc").
> > I have the latest FW update 1.72, but even this dates back from 2004.
>
> Sometimes there is no possible firmware fix for speeds that were
unsupported
> when a device was sold. These days, higher speeds usually mean a new
> chipset, not just new firmware.


In the past I have experienced the same sort of problems, when all 4 speed
DVD+R changed to 8 speed. That problem however was solved successfully by
the 1.72 version firmware update. So I assumed that if all current DVD media
changes to 16 speed, this would be solved again by device manufacturer by
adapting the firmware.
As a matter of fact, I don't give a damn at what speed the discs are
written, as long as they get written at all, durably and reliably. But
because of this fashion of faster media each time, I end up with not being
able to write DVD's at all! Downward compatibility is lousy, although it
says on the box "1 speed(!) - 16 speed". (The DVD+R writing speeds of my
device are 1X - 2.4X).



> I got spoiled by many useful firmware
> upgrades for my old Plextor CD writers so I got mad when my Sony DRU-510A
> got orphaned at 4X speeds.


That's not what I call 'spoiled', if a customer doesn't want to buy a new
device, each time he is forced to buy faster media. 'Fast'burning may be a
nice option, as long as downward compatibility is guaranteed!


> I'm still angry (I hold a grudge, so sue me),
> but I'm beginning to accept that it is just not possible to write magic
> new firmware for old hardware when the real fix is a new chipset.


In the past I have experienced succesfull solutions by firmware updates, so
I think this is well possible. But I suspect some manufacturers rather try
to boost sales of their new devices.


>
> If others have had good experiences with hardware manufactures that have
> managed better than I have experienced, I would love to hear about it.



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