Posted by Jan Panteltje on 10/11/06 16:34

On a sunny day (Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:19:42 +0300) it happened "Jukka Aho"
<jukka.aho@iki.fi> wrote in <gY7Xg.3903$483.1202@reader1.news.jippii.net>:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> Most people with a digital set top box watch the composite PAL output
>> because every part of the system (Sky box, DVD recorder and TV set)
>> defaults to this unless you go to the trouble of changing the
>> settings.
>
>I don't think this is really true. European set-top boxes and DVD
>players/recorders usually come with a SCART cable that has both the RGB
>pins and the pin number 16 connected. The voltage on pin number 16 tells
>the tv set to switch into RGB mode. Many TV sets don't even _have_ a
>separate menu setting for switching into RGB mode - it's all controlled
>automatically via pin 16.

Indeed, yes composite is still used, I have one composite camera too,
but the times of HDMI DHCPD etc are here.
Hollywood will make big efforts to have everything digital encrypted, and
make analog a crime if they could ;-)

There is a lot of crossposts.. so very different viewpoints will happen in
this thread, sure for the consumer FBAS (composite) and S-VHS will last
a while.
But the life cycle of consumer products and standards seems to become shorter
each year!
Old BW TV can still be received on todays sets... 50 years.... mpeg2 TV and
DVB-S in Europe is now changing to mp4 and DVB-S2 after only what is it?
8 years?
VHS is dead (S- or not) DVD is replaced by blue-laser (but still only 2% of
sales last time I looked....).

As for in-house interconnect, I have wired the place with screened rj45
Ethernet cable, security cam is RJ45 too, see my Linux soft for that:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/mcamip/

Satellite users will know about the dreambox with ethernet.
So, if _any_ standard, then it is base 100 or faster ethernet that is good.
The insanity of 'Hollywoods' solutions is in this,
if you have a digital transport stream (.ts), then you can simply feed it into
the LAN.
Only takes little bandwidth.
The idiots do not feed .ts into the monitor, with the decryption / cardslot
in the monitor, but use ultra high bandwidth HDMI encrypted with HDCP, and
think that protects them from the 'analog hole'.
Well the displays and cameras get so good now you can film it at home from the
screen.
And HDMI DHCPD to YUV decrypting boxes are for sale.
HDMI is an insult to technology.
But it is marketing that sells, and now every few years will sell you a new TV
and / or settop box.
Where this will end? next nuclear war likely.

So now flame away

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