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Posted by Tony on 10/18/06 15:42

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:45:36 -0400, Bill <trash@christian-horizons.org> wrote:

>Seriously? Not disagreeing with your experience, but almost every bride
>I know of wants to see every last second, including every skit, speech,
>or joke at the reception. They always tell me that they never really
>"experienced" their own wedding day until they saw the video, because
>they were overwhelmed with emotion and excitement.
>

It is true that most couples do tell me that when they watch their tape, they missed all of it while
it was going on. Aside from that, they also will not watch a super long tape. They will always go
right to this part or that part. I really havent done weddings since DVDs became popular and that is
the difference. Now, you make chapters. Ten years ago, they had to FF to all the parts. Not even
their closest friends and family are going to sit through an entire mass more than once, if that
much. As an editor, it is up to us to make the video move without keeping in everything. Leaving on
all of the dancing, just for the sake of having everything, is amateurish. I used to take one full
song, and then use cuts from other songs (very carefully so that I got everyone in, and did
everything in my power to keep them dancing on beat) and I would be able to combine the footage of 4
songs into one. And it looked like a well produced 4 camera shoot.

The option to give them the complete unedited tape worked too. Most didnt want it. Most loved the 90
minutes I would give them. Very watchable with no waste. Of course, what I think is not important,
the couple might (such as their 90 year old great grandmother who might have died right after the
wedding).

I just got married and I am editing my own wedding video. I paid someone to shoot and hand me the
tapes. I will make it nice and short and then include a bonus DVD of all of the watchable footage.

Tony


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>Tony wrote:
>> I shot weddings for many years and I never
>> included the entire one hour ceremony in the production. No one would want to sit through it more
>> than once. (I would include it as an undedited extra tape if they requested it but no one ever
>> wanted the entire thing).
>>
>> There is nothing worse than handing a couple a video of their wedding that is over 2 hours long.
>> Actually, in the days of VHS, that was more true than these days, with chapters and DVDs. But,
>> everyone knows that most people simply watch the 4 minute re-cap of the day. As long as these
>> "amateurs" dont get in my way, they do not bother me. If they do, I simply give them a silent tap on
>> their shoulder and motion them to move slightly.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:50:20 GMT, Gary Eickmeier <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was shooting a wedding yesterday with my VX-2000, tripod mounted,
>>>front camera in Catholic ceremony. We also had a rear cam and a mike
>>>with MD recorder on the groom. In the congregation were two amateurs
>>>hand-holding their little video cameras for the duration of this hour
>>>long wedding. All they would have to do is purchase a copy of our DVD
>>>after it is edited, labelled, and chapterized. I'm not sure what
>>>motivates such behavior, but it reminded me of some of the things you
>>>see them do while on a shoot such as this.
>>>
>>>We all know about the amateur tendency to nail the subjects' heads in
>>>the center of the frame, as if they were target shooting, and their
>>>requirement to shoot all stills as horizontal compositions. Another
>>>typical happening is the amateur who approaches you and asks if you have
>>>any spare batteries, because his just ran out. I transferred a 45 minute
>>>long funeral video to disc for a client last week. It consisted entirely
>>>of a single shot, a wide angle view of the front of the church.
>>>
>>>I can't count the number of times I have been carrying my video camera
>>>and light around and was approached by someone asking if I am the
>>>photographer. Of course, the amateur videographers never use lights -
>>>that would be totally beyond the pale - and I guess I am thankful for that.
>>>
>>>Anyone else have some?
>>>
>>>Gary Eickmeier
>>
>>

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