Reply to Re: How to get full size 4:3 video from captured DTV stream?

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Posted by Max Haltermann on 12/14/06 08:19

"Little Red Hen" <whodunnit@mysteryl.com> wrote in message
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> "Max Haltermann" <maxhalt@hugonet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> "Jukka Aho" <jukka.aho@iki.fi> wrote in message
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>>> Max Haltermann wrote:
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>>>> When I make a DVD from a Winfast2000H DTVcapture card
>>>> the playback from a stand alone DVD player to a 68cm 4:3 TV is about
>>>> 20%
>>>> smaller than the TV's screen. [i.e., there
>>>> all black borders on all sides of the picture]
>>>
>>> How does the original captured signal look on a computer? Does it
>>> already
>>> have the black bars there? (Is the original signal in 12P16 format?)
>>> Yes.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer re aspect ratio terms.
>> As I wrote in my first posting, the transmitted signal of all local DTV
>> stations has 4:3 images embedded in a 16:9 transmission. Format 12P16
>>
>> VideoRedo File info says 16:9 and image 720:576 (normal PAL format).
>>
>> This makes sense for the DTV stations, as this way they provide both main
>> aspect ratios for the end user. The end user selects 4:3 or 16:9 on the
>> set top
>> box this, as I see it, sets the correct parameters for the DIGITAL TO
>> ANALOG DECODER.
>> In other words, the analog image in the right format and dimensions for
>> display on a TV screen is created outside the digital environment.
>>
>> So the question still is: How can one get a full hight and full width 4:3
>> display from
>> the raw digital TV transmissions on to DVD or onto a TV screen, seeing
>> there is no D/A conversion or decoding involved?
>>
>> Max.
>>
>>
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>>
>>> See here for an explanation of the formats and their names:
>>> <http://google.com/groups?selm=a96fma$kj6$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
>>>
>>> --
>>> znark
>>>
> Max I assume you have a 4:3 TV or Monitor? Either way in making a DVD you
> need to change the flag in the ifo files to tell the DVD player to present
> a full screen presentation during playback. If the ifo file has letterbox
> ticked as well as pan an scan you will get the so-called postage stamp
> view., ie black all around the 4:3 image. My friend has the same card as
> you and I have the Dvico HDTV card and my Topfield PVR5000. Al I do is
> edit the captured file and then make a DVD (to harddisk) then edit the ifo
> files and then burn using Nero. As I said in my other post it takes all of
> 20 seconds to make the edit in IFOEdit. Then all my DVD's ex Oz DTV that
> are 4:3 aspect ratio playback full screen on my 4:3 TV with no black
> borders and full vertical screen with black bars either side on my 16:9
> LCD. Just like a bought one!!!!!
That would be beaut if it worked in my case!!!
I got IFOEdit, ran it fiddled with it, said duhh a few times, (I'm 72 and
battling a bit
with HiTec). Anyway eventually I found the lines of text in the IFOedit
display, which, when clicked on, produced this window in which the settings
can be altered.
After some drama I got those files to look as below:

1) VIDEO_TS.IFO file:

Video Manager Menu attributes:
video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (pan-scan)
Title set 1:
VTS_1 Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (pan-scan)


1) VTS_01_0.IFO file:

Title set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (pan-scan)

Only thing wrong with this is, that the movie even on the pc monitor still
does not
reach edge to edge, instead it has a thick black border all around.
I don't like to give up but?????????

Max.

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