Posted by ~yobbo~ on 12/16/06 11:33

Theophilus wrote:
> "~yobbo~" <misfit61nz@yahookers.com.au> wrote in message
> news:45834a64_3@x-privat.org...
> > Theophilus wrote:
> > > > It is impossible to "convert" to atheism since atheism is not
> > > > only not a religion, it is a rejection of religion. That's
> > > > like saying you joined nothing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Atheism IS a religion, the most hypocritical known.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Religion is the wilful self-delusion about higher power(s) being
> > > the actual arbiters of mankind and the universe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This self-delusion is necessary to prevent oneself from realizing
> > > one's true position in the universe, namely that a conscious mind
> > > is no more valuable or meaningful that any other bit of matter in
> > > the universe, be it cow dung, helium or coal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Atheists wilfully remove that self-delusion (usually with great
> > > pride), even claiming that the universe is a meaningless place,
> > > but never once realizing where that leaves them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's really about who the arbiter, the assigner of meaning, is: for a
> > > religious person it is God, even though there is no
> > > empirical evidence to back it up; hence the wilful delusion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For the atheist it is his himself, he is his own arbiter, master
> > > of all morality and value. That flies in the face of evidence;
> > > he says that he knows that he is no more valuable than any other
> > > piece of matter in the materialistic universe, and yet continues
> > > to assign value to himself and his actions anyways.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Which of these has the most reasonable position? (As if reason
> > > itself has any value in a materialistic, godless universe.) Who
> > > is the greater hypocrite?
> >
> > You.
>
> Good answer. Demonstrate.

Thanks but... Philoshophy and theology aren't my strongest suits. Now, if we
were discussing psychology....
--
Shaun.

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