Posted by PizzaDriver on 12/22/06 23:51

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:44:00 -0600, "Theophilus"
<intrexATsasktelDOTnet> wrote:

>
>"Joe" <joe@fake.net> wrote in message
>news:9n1io292um5ocjaj47vqgcm0tlopbkuhfl@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:21:30 -0600, "Theophilus"
>> <intrexATsasktelDOTnet> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Joe" <joe@fakee.net> wrote in message
>>>news:15t7o2t35vgfep23eqi4kojijr1cgvc4tu@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:50:36 -0600, "Theophilus"
>>>> <intrexATsasktelDOTnet> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It is impossible to "convert" to atheism since atheism is not only not
>>>>>> a religion, it is a rejection of religion. That's like saying you
>>>>>> joined nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Atheism IS a religion, the most hypocritical known.
>>>>
>>>> Sure. In the same way that 'not collecting stamps' is a hobby.
>>>
>>>What if you NEED stamps? Read the whole post, not just the part your
>>>object
>>>to.
>>>
>> If I need stamps, I buy them. That doesn't make me a stamp collector,
>
>Maybe you do. Even if you need them, you still have the option of not
>buying, right? It's a question of recognizing a need and then doing
>something about it. If you refuse to acknowledge the need, then you
>probably won't buy the stamps. It doesn't change the reason for the need
>though.

I suppose I could go to the PO and have them print the postage on a
sticker. Are you suggesting I not file my 1040 with the IRS?

>I am tired of this metaphor. :-)

Yeah, and I'm tired of the one you're operating with, where a universe
without a deity is meaningless. So deal with it.

>> any more than carrying the pocket change to purchase said stamps,
>> makes me a coin collector.
>
>> I did read the entire post. You made a false assertion. I supplied
>> you with a similar assertion, to make light of your post.
>
>Ok, let's drop the metaphor. Your definition of atheism is obviously based
>on the ABSENCE of belief about a higher power, right? The problem is,
>asserting this "absence" spontaneously erupts into actual negative
>assertions. Say it for me: "There is no God", and I will show you a fool
>who thinks he is God.

Someone who asserts 'there is no god' is not accepting the role of a
god. They are denying one exists. Do you have a dictionary? Look up
athirst.

>You can't possibly know if there is a God or not, can
>you? The best you can honestly hope to say is that you simply don't know.

So, fellow agnostic, why are you splitting hairs?



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