Posted by Theophilus on 12/30/06 13:55

"anthonyberet" <nospam@me.invalid> wrote in message
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> Theophilus wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Sorry, your own #2 rules out atheism as a religion. The whole higher
>>> power
>>> thing. BTW, higher than what?
>>
>> Higher than the moral nothingness dictated by a material universe.
>> Atheists use morality as if it were real and absolute in some sense; they
>> have no empirical evidence that there is any basis to it.
>>
>> An honest atheist would admit such and regard his own life as being
>> "worth" as much as any lump of coal or granite. This is the delusion
>> that they live under, the idea that they have some absolute worth, when
>> their belief system dictates that they have none.
>>
>>
> I think you make a mistake in generalising about atheists.
> - We neither have agreed rules of morality or measures of 'worth'.

You shouldn't have any at all, that's my point. An honest atheist would
live as if all that were artifice.

> My opinion on these matters could not be taken to represent all atheists.
> Might I ask what are your beliefs about the cosmos? - Is there an
> intelligent design to it? Is any designer petitionable in any way?

I have no beliefs. I only admit to facts. I do recognize the predicament
we are in though. Here we are, self aware, moralizing beings that desire
meaning and purpose, in a universe that precludes it. What's the solution?

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