Posted by Bobbie on 01/03/07 04:31

While taking a break from performing an interpretive dance of 'Flight of
the Bumble Bee', chrisv wrote:

> Bobbie wrote:
>
>>Uuuum, because if they bought that HDTV with HDMI input prior to February
>>of 2006 they'd be SOL so far as connecting a HDCP compliant device to that
>>old and now antiquated HDMI television. I'd mush rather leave the unusable
>>antique hanging in the living room and just buy a decent 16:9 monitor for
>>the computer. It'd be much cheaper.
>
> Sorry, but I'm lost. I'd have sworn that HDCP has been built-into
> digital televisions for years. I'd have sworn that my
> several-year-old widescreen CRT box, which is too old to have HDMI on
> it, has a fully HDCP-compliant DVI input.

Yeah, confusing isn't. My Toshiba set is HDCP 1.1 Complaint. Problem is,
and this is what delayed the PS3, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray in general is the
implementation of HDCP ver 1.3 which occured in June 2006.
It's as confusing as hell trying to figure it out. Toshiba says that for
the most part my set should work with current HDCP sources and media but
with 1.3 there are no guarantees. See, the media providers have final say
as to which aspects of HDCP they will apply to a movie. Some discs could
come with no HDCP requirements in such that all HDMI sets will work. And
if Hollywood or who ever else decides that they want maximum protection
for a movie then they can lock it down and enforce all aspects of copy
protection. How my set will react is any ones guess. Toshiba won't even
say. According to Silicon Image, Intel's partner in the creation of HDMI,
the HDCP key matrix is supposed top be renewable so that if HDCP is broken
in the future they can simply update the keys. Now the question I have is
this. What happens to movies recorded with the old keys? Silicon Image
proposes that these keys be updated simply by passing new updated media
through the processor. Do you have the right to refuse the new keys?


>
> Please provide proof of your assertions that HDCP has "changed" so
> that older HDCP-compliant displays will not work.

Read through this page:
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.asp

And pay very close attention to the re-itteration of 1.3 being BACKWARDS
compatible with 1.0 to 1.2. Nowhere do they state that 1.2 and older will
be forward compatible. Windows XP is pretty well backwards compatible
with most software created for prior Windows versions as it is backwards
compatible. Can you run XP specific programs on Win95 or Win98? Didn't
think so.

Again my email response from Toshiba regarding my set was that in general
my set 'should' work with newer 1.3 compliant devices and media.



>
> In any case, you can still use the component-video inputs.

Ah, there in lies the kicker. In order to properly plug the 'analog hole'
newer HDMI-HDCP compliant boxes can still come with analog outputs but
they have to down grade the output, thus making it un-appealing to copy.
Under HDCP requirements analog outputs on HDCP compatible
devices must be limited to 480p maximum. Kind of a waste of my set.

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Why? Cause he can, that's why.

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