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Posted by Technobarbarian on 01/09/07 23:36

"M-Theory" <m-theory@superstrings.com> wrote in message
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> "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"M-Theory" <m-theory@superstrings.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip self-inflated blowhard bullshit]
>>>
>>> I'd say you're such an ass, you're funny. But you're not even funny.
>>> Just because you claim to be right and further claim everyone else is
>>> stupid, you assume that makes it so. You aren't Jean Luc Picard. What
>>> you say means shit. You have zero credibility except in your own little
>>> head. And I do mean little.
>>>
>>> AllofMP3 has a well-designed site, yes, that is well structured, and has
>>> been from their inception in 2000. Criminal sites don't stick around for
>>> 6 years building and maintaining excellent reputations with their
>>> customers.
>>
>> LOL, you're a hoot! You never heard of Enron?
>
> Enron wasn't a mere website enterprise, you idiot.
>
>> Not to mention hundreds
>>of other high profile criminal enterprises currently or formerly operating
>>in *this* country. Hell, our idiot government was recently bragging about
>>fining several illegal operations, with televions ads and beautiful
>>websites, $25,000,000--without shutting them down. For one of them it was
>>the second time they were fined for the same thing and the second time
>>they
>>promised to go and sin no more. There really is one of you born every
>>minute.
>
>
> Why don't you "put up or shut up" as they say? Please provide proof of
> your claim that AllofMP3 is run by "Russian criminals." I'd like to see
> what you base your slanderous opinion on. The facts are:

They're selling something that doesn't belong to them.
>
> 1. AllofMP3.com has been around for 6 years and has a loyal customer
> base that is enormous by independent reports.

LOL, the Mafia has been around for far more than 6 years and has a
loyal customer base too.
>
> 2. There are no reports whatsoever of identity theft or other problems
> associated with the customer base. In fact, customers are very happy
> with AllofMP3.

Actually there have been reports of problems on this usenet group.
Google it for yourself.
>
> 3. The one caveat is that, according to Wikipedia, many customers began
> getting porn spam some months back, on email addresses that AllofMP3 had
> for a very long time without incident. No one knows if this was a breach
> on behalf of AOMP3 or not.
>
> 4. AllofMP3 knows customers were concerned about the legality of a site
> that offered music at such reasonable prices, and therefore included
> information about their legal standing, as per their position on Russian
> Law.

The agency they claim to be paying royalties to says that they made
token payments for awhile, but that even that has ceased. If they are indeed
receiving royalties what reason would they have to lie? I've post a link to
that story here several times for other blowhards. Google it for yourself.
Their claims are so much BS. What in the hell did you expect them to say?


Not being a legal expert I can only say that I appreciate that they
> assured me, as a customer, that it was a legal operation. If there is
> some question about the law, it is for the courts to straighten out, not
> customers. All ofMP3 did not have to include this information on their
> site, but they did. That creates a certain amount of trust, imo. If it
> is ill-founded or not, the courts will decide and take appropriate
> action.
>
> There is no proof, that I have seen, that this site is run by
> "criminals."
>
> And I see you avoided the real issue: that the RIAA could be making this
> money themselves by starting a US-based site like AllofMP3 that sells
> music files at the same price structure of AllofMP3.

That's the *real* issue for you. For me the only issue I was posting
about was your idiotic statements. That, they have a pretty website, so they
can't be criminals thing is a hoot.

The problem with
> the RIAA, is that it too greedy to see that cheaper music equals far
> more sales, making volume the thing that will make them and the artists
> more money. Instead they want to close down an affordable outlet, and
> force a situation where people are forced to pay a buck a song (or
> whatever outklets charge here). It won't work, b/c if AllofMP3 closes
> down, and music is too expensive, people will just augment lower sales
> at legit outlets with P2P type resources that don't pay ANY royalties to
> ANYbody. The RIAA can't win by trying to force this type of situation.
> It has to play along, or lose. If it doesn't want to play along by
> letting AllofMP3 make the money, then the RIAA needs to start their own
> US-based service to make the money themselves by using an AllofMP3
> pricing structure. I would certainly choose to buy from a US-based site
> rather than an international site, if one were available that was as
> customer-oriented, convenient and well structured as AllofMP3.

It's easy to sell something that doesn't belong to you cheap. The RIAA
companies are reported to get $0.75/song from the legit' sites. Why they
would want to sell for pennies on the dollar escapes me, but as I don't own
stock in any of the RIAA companies I'm not worried about it. I figure they
have a far better handle on the math and economics of their situation than
your wild guesses and wishful thinking.

The bottom line for me: The RIAA's distribution model is a dinosaur. Oh
well, I don't own any stock--not my problem. Like it or not Allofmp3, as you
know it, is going away. I'm getting everything I want without sending money
to Russia so this isn't my problem. And your silly assertions are humorous,
but not something I lose sleep over either.

TB

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