Posted by P R on 01/17/07 19:22

"P R" <proportional@representation.now> wrote in message
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> I'm having difficulties setting up this machine.
> It comes with a built-in Freeview decoder,
> which scans and completes easily, showing all
> possible stations.
> The tv I am connected to also has a Freeview
> decoder, which I did not connect to the aerial,
> and so does not have any channels, but seems
> happy enough.(I have to switch this channel on
> manually from the remote to access it, so I hope
> it is not giving the problem)
>
> I have a cable decoder (Samsung 2100c) which
> I plugged to the recorder as directed, using the
> scart connections.
> There is also a special lead (G-Link)which goes to an IR
> detector/emitter, which I have to stick to the top
> of the cable decoder for communications with the
> recorder.
> This system is called Guide Plus, and seems to be
> European specific.
>
> Although I can switch the selected input to the one
> from cable, and use cable without fuss, and manually
> record this ok, I cannot get the Guide Plus to show
> my cable channels which it is there for, allowing
> easy programming.
>
> I have already tried waiting overnight for the tv listings
> and data, but nothing happened.
> I have seen this morning a message on the recorder that
> it was receiving data and then "upgrade".
>
> I am currently set up for analog ITV for my Host channel.
> Is it better to try for another channel - say Sky Sports News,
> which I hear also transmits data? If so, then I could set it up
> to my digital Freeview output, which may bypass something
> funny in my Sony tv.
>
> This trouble may be specific to UK users, and to Pioneer
> users with a cable box, or possible with a satellite box.
>
> The people who wrote the manual could never have tested it
> on the public before publishing.
>
> The directions for the simplest actions are split up in sections
> and spread all over it, making learning difficult.
>
> For those who have the machine I have my cable box on L1
> , which the "Basic setup" for Guide Plus seems happiest.
> I answer all the questions (You have to answer PACE for
> Samsung) and then it sends different codes which do nothing.
> In the small window on the left, I have cable transmission as
> normal, and titled "AV2/L1"
>
> If I go to the edit dialog and chose a channel and edit the
> source to the 1st external source, it steadfastly switches to
> L2 which gives a blank screen. I cant find a way to make
> my external decoder show up an L2 or switch the recorder
> to look at L1.
>
> I guess you can see I'm confused.
>
> PR

If in the future anyone stumbles upon this post, the crux of
the difficulty seems to be the recorder's insistence on assigning
L2 to the external decoder, while the actual line is L1.
This L1 is shared with the internal Freeview decoder, and
Input/Select is the way to switch between them.
The advice from Customer assistance has been to go through
the Basic Setup in Guide + and when asked for "Provider"
input "None", this leading to a list of proprietry names. I
was to scroll to the bottom and input "???". Then overnight
there would be a download which would accept the Samsung
2100 decoder.
Since It downloads to L1, it actually updated Freeview listings
and did little else, except "NTL" as a provider has only one input
now, instead of NTL Bromley and NTL somewhere else.
Nothing was changed for the better, still unable to use cable from
Guide +.

:(

P R

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