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Posted by Tim McNamara on 02/09/07 23:25
In article <GLCdnZTfwrrMQ1HYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote:
> In article <timmcn-7B9D0D.13114608022007@news.iphouse.com>, Tim
> McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> >In article <1ht99mj.1nopnta1qqgb92N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> >> Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <1ht8mwn.hno31m1jh2kyeN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >> > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ura Dippschit <URN.Idiot@idiots.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > In article
> >> > > > <1ht8ee9.1bhr4vj1nakvb9N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >> > > > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > It is extremely easy to bypass iTunes DRM
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Don't tell the fine folks at JHymn that.
> >> > >
> >> > > At where?
> >> >
> >> > Google is your friend.
> >>
> >> A tiny bit of background couldn't hurt, ya know? :-) *googles and
> >> notes what JHymn is and it's current limitations*
> >
> >Indeed. I didn't want to seem like I was specifically supporting
> >what JHymn does, though.
> >
> >> Of course Microsoft just brands all it's customers pirates by
> >> default and imposes more onerous DRM. Strangely enough Apple
> >> doesn't treat it's customers like criminals and uses barely
> >> noticeable DRM, and iTunes music store sales keep increasing...
> >
> >Microsoft seems to believe that it has been ripped off for many
> >millions of dollars by people pirating its stuff.
>
> Bill Gates has been a piracy paranoiac since the days of Microsoft
> Basic.
I recall him writing a whinge about this back in the days when his
company was called "MicroSoft." There's a copy out on the Web
somewhere. It's before my time in computers.
> Ironically, he's probably the biggest beneficiary of piracy; without
> piracy, his Windows and Office products would not be nearly as
> ubiqtuous (particularly outside the corporate environment), because
> competition on price would be possible.
'struth!
> >Google "trusted computing" for a description of the private sector
> >version of Big Brother.
>
> IIRC "Trusted computing" isn't exactly private sector, nor was it
> intended to be "big brother". I think it came out of the DOD
> "compartmented workstation" project; the idea was to allow one
> machine to process data at different levels of classification without
> allowing leakage between levels. Which doesn't change the fact that
> it's certainly being used for evil now.
Indeed it is:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
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