Posted by Mike Kujbida on 05/27/07 13:28

Spex wrote:
> leekazimir@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Lee
>>>
>>> DV50 is also known as DVCPro.
>>>
>>> If you are only going to use 5 mins then why are you going to capture 8
>>> hours of footage? If you need to view the tapes get some DV copies of
>>> them done. They will be cheaply done by most facilities. Use the DV
>>> tapes in your edit when you have locked your edit down then go back and
>>> get the scenes you need captured in either uncompressed or other
>>> suitable high quality codec (to be determined by your delivery format).
>>
>> This seems like a very good idea. You are right, I wouldn't need the
>> super hi-res stuff until I had what I needed nailed down.
>>
>> But you say that "this will be done very cheaply by most
>> facilities".... I have not found a place that would convert PAL
>> digibeta to anything in NTSC DV for anything less than about $400 an
>> hour. If you know of a facility that would convert more cheaply then
>> I'm grateful for any suggestions.
>
> $400/h seems like a lot. Could the tapes be sent to you as NTSC? I
> have seen facilities here in the UK charging about $120/h for the
> conversion.
>
>>
>>> You say you shot in NTSC HDV. NTSC HDV does not exist. So what did you
>>> actually shoot? 720P 24/30/60 or 1080i60 etc? If you've shot 24P HDV
>>> then I wouldn't bother converting PAL to NTSC.
>>>
>>> What will be your delivery format?
>>
>> I shot 1080i 60 HDV.
>>
>> Delivery format will either be an HDV tape or an HDCAM master,
>> depending on whatever festivals my movie gets accepted to requires.
>>
>> When you say you "wouldn't bother converting".... is there a way I
>> could get the PAL stuff to coexist on the same timeline as my HDV
>> stuff?
>
> The wouldn't bother converting comment was only valid if you'd shot 24P
> and PAL only being 1fps different.
>
>>
>>> What are you editing on? If FCP I might be able to help more than if
>>> you use another NLE. But I am sure someone can help if you are using
>>> Avid/Prem/Vegas et al.
>>
>> I am not using FCP. I am using Vegas 7 right now. Also considering
>> getting Ulead if I need it, but do not own a Mac.
>>
>>> Don't even consider DVD.
>>>
>>> Apple ProRes is just a very high quality codec that will serve you
>>> better than uncompressed, i.e. small file sizes, if you or the facility
>>> are able to capture to it and you are using FCP6.
>>
>>> FCP6's open timeline can cope with mixing of HD, SD and with all
>>> different frame rates. So FCP6 would make your project a breeze.
>>
>> FCP can mix PAL and NTSC? This I wish I had known. Do you know if
>> this can be done on Vegas, Ulead, or any PC-based NLE?
>>
>> Thanks much for your help so far.
>>
>> Lee
>>
> Lee
>
> It seems you are in luck. Mike Kujbida is the local Vegas expert here
> and I'm sure he wouldn't mind helping you with the Vegas workflow. I am
> sure he will chip in and explain how best to tackle the job from a Vegas
> perspective.


Thanks for the recommendation Spex but, since I've never dealt with
Digibeta, all I can suggest to Lee is to search the Sony Vegas forum at
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=4
using digibeta as the search word and farss as the user name. His real
name is Bob Grant and he's from Australia. I met him at NAB a few years
ago and he definitely knows what he's taking about when it comes to
anything Digibeta.
If you're a registered poster on that forum, his name is one that you
can click to send him an email and I'm sure he'd be glad to help a
fellow Vegas user.
Alternatively, post this question on that forum and I'm sure you'll get
a few more suggestions on the best way to handle this transfer.
One playback deck that farss mentions numerous times is the Sony J30.
This deck offers Betacam, Betacam SP, Betacam SX, MPEG IMX, and Digital
Betacam playback compatibility. It's switchable between 525/60 and
625/50 playback modes and has a firewire interface.
Details of this deck are at http://tinyurl.com/36nnte
List price on this deck is $14,760 and a quick google search showed
places renting it for $150-$200 per day.

Mike

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