Posted by ninphan on 07/03/07 15:57

> > Audio-wise Blu-ray is in a mess? They have four times more lossless
> > titles than HD DVD.
> > I'll enjoy Sony's non-dialogue normalized TrueHD and PCM tracks,
> > Disney's 24-bit PCM tracks, Lions Gate's 7.1 PCM tracks, Warner's PCM
> > tracks, Paramount's upcoming PCM tracks and Fox's 1.5 Mbps DTS core
> > before I get stuck buying into a format that so far only has about 35
> > titles available with lossless TrueHD on them and otherwise losssy
> > Dolby Digital Plus.
>
> > Once the PS3 has DTS-MA decoding then I'll be enjoying that too.
> > According to DTS that should be within the next 6 months.
>
> You're planning on buying a new player, huh? Because most people are
> not as sure as you are that DTS-MA will be there that soon, and the
> concensus is that most of the current BD players don't have enough hump
> for DTS-MA.
>
> > I have no idea why you still have your BDP-S300, I would have taken it
> > back and bought a PS3 a long time ago if I were you. 24/176.4
> > decimation for SACD? Sweet, most dedicated SACD players in NA don't
> > have that much fidelity when converting to PCM, which all analog
> > players have to do. Ethernet port for 2.0 profile, 2 @ 40 Mbps AVC
> > decoding capabilities for 1.1 profile? Hello, easy decision.
>
> I seriously looked at the PS3, but it doesn't fit in the schema of my AV
> rack. It runs cooler and quieter on its side and that just doesn't get
> it.
>
> The S300 is doing a good job of what it does and I suspect that Sony
> will have a firmware update to add THD and DTS-HD support soon.
>
> As to the enet capability, yep I would like it, but I would use it just
> like I do my HDA2. Connect when I need and update, otherwise it isn't
> connected.
>
> > And you're wrong when you say that most players don't do TrueHD. Both
> > Elite players do it, both Panasonic players do it, the Samsung BD-
> > P1200 does it natively and there's firmware coming out for the 1st gen
> > model. The PS3 also does it.
>
> > All studios using TrueHD also are putting a PCM track too. The only
> > exception was one Warner title, Iwo Jima, but 300 will have TrueHD and
> > PCM, Batman Begins will have TrueHD and PCM and Troy Director's Cut
> > will have PCM and TrueHD. I don't see much of a problem there when
> > only one movie so far has been released with only a TrueHD track.
> > Hardly a mess.
>
> > None of the HD DVD players can play the DTS-MA tracks on all the
> > Studio Canal releases.
>
> I hope they keep putting the LPCM tracks on, IMO makes the THD issue
> moot. I really wish they would use 7.1 LPCM though.
>
> As to DTS-MA, nothing does it, not BD not HDDVD. So what is your point?

That was my point. Nothing does it, yet you consider Blu-ray's audio
to be in a mess? That's not logical. Blu-ray has far more consistent
audio fidelity than HD DVD and the majority of the time the lossless
tracks are PCM.

I don't need them to go back and remaster releases into 7.1 if they're
currently 5.1 or 6.1 and I don't care whether it's DTS-MA, TrueHD or
PCM, as long as one form of lossless audio is used.

I'm not sure why you stated "You're planning on buying a new player,
huh?" because I have no intention of replacing the PS3 as my
designated standalone Blu-ray player. It does my Blu-ray discs,
SACD's, PS3 games, PS2/1 games, lets me download trailers and watch
them in 1080p, has HDMI 1.3, plays DVD's and CD's. With 24/176.4
decimation the PS3 is truly an audiophile level machine allowing the
Cell processor to do the work. The only thing it's missing is DVD-
Audio support, but my SACD collection is much bigger anyway.

It's nothing to do with having a "hump" it's to do with the hardware.
The PS3 has infinitely more processing power than is needed for DTS-
Master Audio so I think I'm sitting pretty. I'm holding off on
watching Fox's titles (only bought KOH so far) simply because I'd
rather wait to enjoy them when I can listen to DTS-MA.

I'm happier with compressed lossless because it means more breathing
room for the PQ, but I do agree that if there's room for PCM, I'm
certainly not going to snub my nose at it. I do see PCM disappearing
2-3 years into the format's life though and TrueHD and DTS-MA being
the norm.

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