Posted by ninphan on 07/05/07 12:26

On Jul 4, 6:15 pm, "Telstar" <n...@none.net> wrote:
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> > On Jun 28, 10:51 am, skip <skip[@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "David B. Mathews" <dmathews9...@comcast.net> wrote in news:n8GdnaU1Vt-
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> >> >http://snipr.com/1ngfd
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> >> I use both Blu Ray and hd dvd on my 52 inch JVC.I will admit the picture
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> >> better than a normal DVD it is nothing to write home about.
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> > I've written home about it several times.
> > Pirates of the Caribbean, Enter the Dragon, Donnie Brasco, Identity,
> > MI:3, Enemy of the State, Deja Vu, Open Season, The Prestige, Nine
> > Inch Nails - Beside you in Time, Planet Earth, World Trade Centre,
> > Casino Royale, Apocalypto, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down - all
> > absolutely stunning and several times better than anything I've seen
> > on DVD whether upconverted or not.
> > Also the sound, particularly on Buena Vista's 24-bit PCM titles,
> > rounds circles around the lossy 448 Kbps Dolby Digital tracks found on
> > most DVD's.
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> Nonsense....this has been scientifically analyzed and perceptually these are
> equivalent (when the compression is done right). The benefit of other
> techniques is that you do not need the expertise of a compressionist...you
> DO need a terrific sound crew in either case.
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> The video is patently NOT several times better than upconverted DVD. That
> is hyperbole. The original poster is correct...it is a nice improvement,
> but nothing to write home about (ps...I have high end equipment).- Hide quoted text -
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Sorry but you're talking bollocks.
Uncompressed 24-bit PCM is head over shoulders above compressed Dolby
Digital.
You could go between 24/48 PCM on POTC and Dolby Digital all day, with
all levels set to be the same SPL, and you'd pick the PCM track out
EVERY TIME. It's that much of a difference. It doesn't matter how good
the compressionist is, you can't lose that much data (448 Kbps vs 6900
Kbps) and not notice it. All the analysis in the world means fuck all
when you sit down and use your own two ears....or anyone elses.

The picture quality between DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray 1080p is also a
huge difference over DVD, upscaled or not.

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