Posted by Toby on 07/13/07 10:10

Reading this thread makes me think that you are just trying to justify using
your PD 150. There is no question that it can produce acceptable image
quality for a number of uses, but it remains of far lesser quality than even
a decent 2/3" chip SD camera, not to mention HD. I can guarantee you that
PD 150 material upsampled to HD is going to be glaringly obvious if it has
to be intercut with true HD, or even HDV, or even upsampled Beta SP or
something from DVCPro or whatever. Whether the material from the PD 150 will
be acceptable is completely a question of what your client needs, but it is
an incontrovertable fact that it will be clearly inferior to any form of HD
or SD shot on professional equipment.

Toby


"P.C. Ford" <meoh@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:44:37 +0100, Spex <No.spam@ta.com> wrote:
>
>>P.C. Ford wrote:
>>> Nobody seems to be answering this part of my post from above, so I
>>> will make it more obvious:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the probability of a job related to the Beijing Olympics. Not
>>> the sports events, but documenting the development of a pavillion for
>>> the event, and video content within it.
>>>
>>> I have a PD 150 right now. I am assuming that I will need a hi-def
>>> camera somewhere down the road. Untill the time that I have another
>>> camera, would it be possible to shoot 16x9 on the PD 150 and upsample
>>> it to high def? The content would be planning sessions, talking heads.
>>
>>It is amazing someone needs to ask this question.
>>a
>>The PD150 in 16x9 mode has a vertical res of less than 400 lines. It
>>doesn't matter how clever the up-scaling algorithm is no extra
>>resolution is going to be created and it will look out of focus compared
>>to any HD content shot at a future time. You mix up-scaled pd150
>>footage with even one of the poorer budget HD cams and you are asking
>>for trouble let alone a XDCAM HD camera or better.
>>
>>Take Martin's advice re the HV20. If you then went on to purchase a
>>Canon HDV camera like the XL-H1 or XH-A1 you could use the HV20 as a deck.
>>
>>Hope that answers your question.
>
> "Amazing someone needs to ask this question."
>
> Well, you seem to be well informed. Or at least consider yourself
> thus.
>
> Here is some more information for you. The film, "Iraq in Fragments"
> was shot on a AG DVX100, an SD camera as you know. The footage was
> upsampled to hd....not sure what variety. It was then nominated for an
> Academy Award. It is a beautiful movie by, I think, anyone's
> standards. It was nominated for an Academy Award. It lost to "An
> Inconvenient Truth." Gore's movie, in my humble opinion was far less
> of a movie; it was mainly an extremely well done Powerpoint
> presentation. But its political sentiments carried the day.
>
> The point is, contrary to your opinion, it is possible to shoot a
> compelling film on upsample SD. I talked with the video engineer at
> Victory Studios (one of the leading post houses here in Seattle) and
> he said that it was possible as well.
>
> By the way, the guy had some excellent comparisons between the various
> competing flavors of HD these days. Best I have ever seen or heard.
>
> I am certanily well aware that upsampling does not add resolution. But
> it is possible to create good stuff with it. Contrary to your opinion.
> If someone has direct experience instead of mere opinions, I would
> look forward to hearing it.
>
> Oh, the HV20, XL-H1, XH-A1 are less than I was expecting to spend,
> but they are worth a look. Thanks.

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