Posted by RobDee on 08/27/07 17:51

<miguel619776475@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 ago, 00:18, "RobDee" <r...@terra.es> wrote:
>> <miguel619776...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:1188162399.093067.85210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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>> > On 26 ago, 21:53, "RobDee" <r...@terra.es> wrote:
>> >> <miguel619776...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >>news:1188135861.389039.156950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
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>> >> >I must to find a a good and cheap digital video camara useful for
>> >> > YouTube video publishing with quality much better than the one you
>> >> > can
>> >> > see athttp://www.miguelgallardo.es/vicios/ocultos
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>> >> > I can buy 12 or even 20 videocamaras and maybe I can translate to
>> >> > Spanish the instructons teaching tricks to my customers.
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>> >> > Any offer or commercial proposal is very welcome.
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>> >> > miguel,www.cita.es/commercial/agent
>> >> >www.cita.es/euroagent
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>> >> Hola Miguel,
>> >> My first advice would be to tell them to use a tripod! The biggest
>> >> single
>> >> "feature" of amateur video footage is the jumpy - can't -quite -
>> >> make -
>> >> their - mind - up - what - they - are - focussing - attention - on -
>> >> at -
>> >> that - particular - moment quality,
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>> >> Buena suerte
>>
>> >> :)
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>> >> Rob
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>> > Yes, you are right. I use it whenever I can, But now I need to buy a
>> > better videocamara with an efficient battery for videos like the one
>> > you can see athttp://www.miguelgallardo.es or
>> >http://www.miguelgallardo.es/incompatibilidadesand
>> >http://www.cita.es/peritos/inompatibles
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>> > Any advice?
>>
>> Have you looked at Optize - I can highly recommend them - here's a search
>> for Sony MiniDV only cameras (the combination which I would personally
>> recommend):http://www.optize.es/servlet/navigation?category=16485&pag=1&orden=9&...
>>
>> MiniDV will give you the best quality for the least amount of messing
>> around
>> and there is plenty of software to do simple edits and conversion to
>> MPEG4
>> for Utube after uploading the footage to computer with a firewire cable.
>> Also do a google search for getting the best Utube quality - the trick is
>> to
>> start with the highest quality footage and use software to compress it
>> yourself to their requirements to avoid them using their low quailty
>> compression techniques and or recompressing what you have already done
>> compounding any defects in the quality of the material.
>>
>> As for battery life - most of us are resigned to carrying extras around -
>> I
>> always carry a number of fully charged high capacity batteries when on a
>> shoot as well as using an in-car charger (I do mainly Wildlife /
>> Adventure
>> stuff). Most cameras come with a battery that lasts around an hour or two
>> if
>> you are lucky.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Rob
>
> Yes, Rob, you helped me a lot. I think that I must buy a good Sony one
> tht I must to see and check personally, but I need many more cheaper,
> so please let me to know your opinion about 100 Euros or so simple
> camaras like, for instance, the ones you can see at:
> http://www.optize.es/servlet/TOSHIBA_CAM-ILEO_-_CAMARA_DE_VIDEO_PORTA_310522_optize.html
> or at
> http://www.optize.es/servlet/VIDEOCAMARA_DIGITAL_ENERGYSISTEM_ENNVISI_309690_optize.html
>
> I think that latest models can be good enough to improve videos like
> the ones at http://www.miguelgallardo.es/vicios/ocultos
> or any of the ones you can also see at www.cita.es or
> www.miguelgallardo.es

Ok, well the question boils down to: Are these MPEG4 cameras of sufficiently
good quality? I hope someone else can chip in with a word from actual
experience - I did find a short clip made with the Toshiba Camileo:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/785561/cavalcades_2007/
The quality is variable but some sections seem perfectly good enough for
Utube - and if you shoot at 640x480 and avoid the 320 setting, plus use of a
tripod - even under decent lighting conditions - you may get what you're
looking for.

?97 plus IVA isn't a bad price at all - perhaps Optize will do you a deal
where you try one out with the understanding that if they are what you need
you will buy a bulk quantity. If not they will take it back. It's worth
asking their sales dept. They are very good when it comes to service,
delivery and returns; but I've never asked them to take back an item because
"I don't like it"!

:)
Rob

Maybe Optize will

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