Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 09/19/07 18:26

In article <aDdIi.4964$fz2.2944@trndny03>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > In article <1190218997.540482.300690@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
> > ninphan <sjburke73@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>So you seriously think Blu-ray purchasers are going to think THEY have
> >>made a bad decision? Not likely.
> >
> > All this is very nice. Now let's talk about the price you'll see in the
> > store for the 2 HD format players:
>
> Sure--Because, as we've seen on other boards, that's ALL HD fans do:
> "People want cheap players".
> Good, think I'll buy me one of them Chinese players at Wal-mart, along
> with a Vanilla Coke and a bag of Cheetos...Okay, just kidding.
>
> Unfortunately, the topic of storage capacity, audio codecs, 1080i vs p,
> HDMI 1.3 rarely gets brought up, and when it does, we get thrown some
> scare-story fact from 2006 that has since been firmwared out of existence.
> But, hey, how about them cheap players?
>
> (And yes, I know: Alt.games and a.v.dvd are "pro-HD" because we had the
> Gibbering Idiot plugging Blu--
> But it's a new world now....Flying cars, 'n everything:
> Yes, the Idiot still Gibbers--although we haven't heard the peep of a
> gibber in months--but HD dropped the ball, acted like morons, resorted
> to criminal activity to keep Microsoft's hope of HDM code monopoly
> alive, even Disney and Dreamworks are now pointing "bribe" fingers when
> the press can't, and HD now can't keep up a reasonably updated technical
> argument in favor of their own product going to save their lives.
>
> Being a Blu proponent now no longer means being a "Whoa, d00d!" PS3
> gamer-boi, it means now trying to see an integrated end to the format
> war, and how to engineer future consumer-friendliness into one format to
> levee-dam that '09 floodwave of newbies that's about to hit.
> Sorry, guys, you had your chance, but like David Mamet says, Things Change.)
>
> Derek Janssen (who gets out a little, once in a while)
> ejanss@comcast.net

You are confusing the wants and needs of the audio/videophile and geeks
with those of the average consumer. Every poll and study done shows
that cheaper is what gets it done in CE.

The Blu Ray fans always want to talk about the technology, but usually
it is the technology that is coming in the next version after the next
version after the next version. The consumer world just doesn't give
one fine rat's ass about that. In fact, the talking about the profile
levels points out that BD was brought to market way too soon. Hell,
I'll even give you that BD is better in many respects than HDDVD. But
that won't sell the damn things.

What the consumer wants is a cheap hi definition DVD that works well.
At the moment, he isn't being offered one from the BD camp at all, and
only marginally from the HDDVD camp.

As to who paid who to do what, well that won't wash. There was and is
plenty of money being splashed around on both sides to keep the justice
dept busy for lots of years if they were so inclined. But neither side
wants to see that happen.

What should be happening is that ALL THE DAMN STUDIOS should be pressing
both formats and let the consumer speak with his wallet. But currently
neither side wants that to happen.

Now to HDMI. If there ever was a connector that was designed without
the consumer in mind, this one is it. It is now and looks like will
always be a PITA! While it looks to make things simpler, we keep
reading about this player and that AVR with that TV just don't like
something in the chain. And it is all about the 'security' that the
mfgs and studios wanted incorporated, consumer be damned.

Currently all too many products and technology from the CE mfgs are just
missing the consumer mark. And if you are taking a strong side in the
Hi Def DVD war, you almost have to be an idiot. I don't give a crap
which side wins, and I'm not sure I want either to win until they get
the prices down for an entry level machine and the software (movies).

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