Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 09/19/07 19:55

In article <rPeIi.4894$603.1787@trndny02>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >
> > If being the best technology was what sold, the PS3 would be flying off
> > the shelves, and Sony would be making buckets of money off it. Yet that
> > isn't the case at all. The sales are sluggish and that is with Sony
> > practically giving them away, losing bunches of bucks with each and
> > every sale.
> >
> > Heck, they can't even get someone to write a game for it that makes
> > gamers go 'wow!'
>
> And ironically, some polls show 2/3 of gamerz weren't even aware it WAS
> a Blu player.
> (Well, we know one who did, but let's forget about him for the moment.)

I read somewhere that the % of PS3 owners that know it is a BD player
was quite low, and that of that number, even fewer used it that way.

>
> > BTW, if BD were to have the new profile in place and all the movies took
> > advantage of it, they would still be behind HDDVD. No internet
> > connection required for BD's next profile,
>
> (Nope, just Ethernet, sorry.)
>
Not mandatory, only optional. Currently other than the PS3, only one
other BD player has it.

> > and Warner likes it and uses it with some of their releases with more
> > planned.
>
> Well, that was pretty much over the fact that they'd invested so much
> R&D cash into the "TotalHD" disks that were supposed to bring peace out
> of the war--
> And which are now being quietly backshelved and retired by the company
> without undue embarrassment.
>
Yeah, TotalHD flopped quick didn't it? :-0

> Recent rumor has it that Toshiba was in fact more interested in bribing
> Warner out of neutrality (so they could leverage Paramount/Dream with
> "Uh, yeahh, we're in talks with Warner at the moment..."), but,
> um...think we can guess whether there's any love there. -_-
>
> > When 300 released on both, the BD camp made a big deal out of the sales
> > ratio. But that was when the HDDVD version was a combo disk at a higher
> > price.
>
> And before Universal and Warner retired their combo disks, and
> re-released all previously DVD-combo movies on solo-HD disks.
> Well, there's our first official casualty of the War--Better get up that
> new tomb at Arlington. :)
>
Other than the price difference, I never understood why the combo was a
bad idea, still don't. Buy a movie now, play it on your current DVD
player, and later with a HDDVD player. Made good sense.

> > Of course, pathetic is just the perfect description of the total hi def
> > dvd market at the moment anyway.
>
> ...Don't own a screen, huh? ^_^
>
> (It's said that techies With the new toys should never ask the techies
> Without for sympathy, as it's a lost cause, but...trust us on this one.
> Old-school DVD fans know the first taste of addictive Mainstream Video
> Crack when they see one, and they know a future Outbreak before it hits--
> And if we're talking "Gullible customers who don't know better", let's
> talk about mainstream middle-class Circuit City customers browbeaten
> into thinking they have to by a widescreen HDTV before February '09 just
> to watch TV.) >:)
>
> Derek Janssen (oh yeah, we're about to see "Nobody owns those big
> screens anyway" retired REAL quick)
> ejanss@comcast.net

I guess you either don't read here often or have a short memory span,
but here's what my toy room has :

JVC 61" HD-iLA (1080i 'cause they didn't have 1080p then)

Toshiba HD-A2 HDDVD player

Sony BDP-S300 BD player. This is my last Sony purchase. This player
spec'd out TrueHD on page 48 of the owner's manual, but it doesn't
decode it and it appears no firmware upgrade to implement it is gonna
happen. This in spite of the fact the board is the same as in the S1.

My procrastinator's delight AV system:
Harman Kardon AVR247 (main receiver)
Yamaha RX-V661 (as a pre/pro for the BD and HDDVD players)

Dish Network Vip622 HD-DVR Satellite Receiver.

For info, I ended up with both AVRs 'cause while trying both out, I kept
them past the 30 days. So I thought, what the hell! The HK is superior
in most ways (IMO) to the Yamaha, but it doesn't currently do 7.1 LPCM
via HDMI nor layer Dolby iix over 5.1, but the Yamaha does.

So HDMI from the players to the Yamaha, video out HDMI via switch to the
TV, audio out the 8 channel pre outs to the 8 channel analog inputs on
the HK. Makes for one sweet sounding system and my fingers love the
workout they get on the remotes! :-)

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