Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 10/17/07 02:54

In article <ZIcRi.3605$GM2.1514@trndny02>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:>
> >
> >>Tarkus wrote:
> >>
> >>>That's pretty much an obsolete problem. Virtually all new players play
> >>>all formats (save for maybe DVD-RAM), and most consumers, myself
> >>>included, don't even pay attention to -R and +R anymore, and just look
> >>>for the best deal. If HD combo players become the norm, the same thing
> >>>will happen.
> >>
> >>Yeah, we just have to wait five or so years until $1200 players meet the
> >>even "maximum" $500-$600 of an average-level Blu player--
> >>
> >>And then people won't have to pat their "cleverness" on the back for
> >>going out and buying both separately just to be snotty about it, and
> >>then wondering why they can find so few HD-DVD disks for sale or rental.
> >>
> >>(Patience is a virtue, people...
> >>Sometimes, the team that's ahead in the third quarter wins the game anyway.)
> >>
> > And Netflix is seeing more interest in HDDVD vs Blu Ray.
>
> They're seeing more RENTALS than Blu-ray, if that's the numbers they're
> counting.
>
> (While Blu fans tend to be still at that 90's birth-of-DVD stage where
> they think they have to rush out and buy "Twister" the day it's
> released...When you throw sales figures into the mix, HD-DVD users
> apparently don't seem to be *buying* HD-DVD as much as they watch it.)
>
> And I repeat: Guys, it's *okay* now. There's nothing wrong with liking
> Blu-ray in public anymore.
> Blu-D00d hasn't been back here in months.
>
> Derek Janssen (we must conquer our fears and traumas)
> ejanss@comcast.net

Nice try... ;-)

Given the MUCH larger numbers of Blu Ray players compared to HDDVD
players, HDDVD guys are buying as much as the BD guys are.

But I think the reason for the Netflix HDDVD results is that for those
that rent, the HDDVD player at less than $300 is a much better buy.

And since the only real practical difference between the two formats is
which studio is releasing for them, I think we will continue to see the
same percentages for quite some time.

If the phony war was over today, I see no way that BD would win.
Players are more expensive while being less featured. The PQ/AQ of what
is actually released on both is the same when the studios bother to take
advantage of it. The BD camp is in disarray with the new profiles
supposedly coming at the end of the month, but yet no new profile player
will be on sale before next year. And while my HDA2 has played every
HDDVD I ever stuck in it without a firmware upgrade, that hasn't been
true at all in the BD camp. And the new players that are profile 1.0
only with no way to upgrade them at prices that are way too high.

Every single indicator that you look at in the BD camp is that the
product was rushed to market long before it was ready. We that have
bought them are paying a premium to do the Beta testing for these mfgs.

The PS3 is the only real saving grace in the BD camp and even it isn't
safe. Lots of the BD fan club is convinced that the PS3 can and will be
upgraded to the new profiles, but Sony has been completely mum about it.
And then there is the issue of the PS3 being a game machine and lots of
us wouldn't buy it at all because of that.

The signals coming out of the BD mfgs and studios is mass confusion
about what it takes to create a market that is profitable and popular.
The new ads talk about the interactive stuff in the newer profiles with
no machine capable of doing that on the market. Call it potential or
call it lies, but what it is, is deception. And that is a shame.

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