Posted by ChairmanOfTheBored on 10/17/07 07:09

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:02:10 GMT, Derek Janssen
<ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>And Netflix is seeing more interest in HDDVD vs Blu Ray.
>>>
>>>They're seeing more RENTALS than Blu-ray, if that's the numbers they're
>>>counting.
>
>>>And I repeat: Guys, it's *okay* now. There's nothing wrong with liking
>>>Blu-ray in public anymore.
>>>Blu-D00d hasn't been back here in months.
>>>(we must conquer our fears and traumas)
>>
>> But I think the reason for the Netflix HDDVD results is that for those
>> that rent, the HDDVD player at less than $300 is a much better buy.
>>
>> And since the only real practical difference between the two formats is
>> which studio is releasing for them, I think we will continue to see the
>> same percentages for quite some time.
>
>As far as studios, it's hardly fanboyism to say that
>Paramount/Dreamworks took a BIG public-relations hit with the
>"promotional incentives" they thought we wouldn't notice--
>As long as we're counting on ignorant average people to save HD-DVD, the
>biggest headlines they've heard of it are that somebody bribed
>somebody--or worse, that Probably-Microsoft bribed somebody--and that
>doesn't carry much positive association when the retail outlets for the
>disk software begin decreasing.
>Paramount's exclusivity "incentives" only last for an eighteen-month
>renewable deal through Feb. '09, at which point we can imagine they'd
>just *RUSH* to renew format exclusivity in a heartbeat...It was just
>eighteen picnic months of fun for them! ;)
>
>And with studios believing that there will be some Halo-like opening-day
>frenzy for "Transformers", the headline that ended up attached to that
>is that Paramount implied they were forced to leave quality audio tracks
>off the HD-DVD release because there was "no room" on the 30G disks...
>For all the blu-side bragging and red-side jeering that gets kidded
>about the disk-capacity issue, here we have the first headline-grabbing
>test case for the courts. Joe Q. ILoveCheapPlayers may not know what
>TrueHD audio is, but the tech news just couldn't resist playing a
>Transformers-related story on Page 1.
>
>> If the phony war was over today, I see no way that BD would win.
>> Players are more expensive while being less featured. The PQ/AQ of what
>> is actually released on both is the same when the studios bother to take
>> advantage of it. The BD camp is in disarray with the new profiles
>> supposedly coming at the end of the month, but yet no new profile player
>> will be on sale before next year. And while my HDA2 has played every
>> HDDVD I ever stuck in it without a firmware upgrade,
>
>(...Wow, the DVD combos too? A good third of current owners would love
>to have your player.)
>
>> The signals coming out of the BD mfgs and studios is mass confusion
>> about what it takes to create a market that is profitable and popular.
>> The new ads talk about the interactive stuff in the newer profiles with
>> no machine capable of doing that on the market. Call it potential or
>> call it lies, but what it is, is deception. And that is a shame.
>
>It's not deception to say that the disks have it and the players might
>play it *someday*...And "someday" doesn't seem to bother BD fans all
>that much.
>Public perception still blames That Darn War for why companies haven't
>been able to even standardize their own product, and although it's
>currently Hip 2 Be Cynical about what's going on in Euro...er, Hi-Def,
>cynicism and bi-loyalty isn't getting the player profiles out any faster.
>
>If fear is dragging the market , it's fear of being stuck with 07's
>stagnant product before '08 delivers any promised goodies.
>Which makes adaptability to future systems the new scrip currency on the
>Blu side of the war.
>
>Derek Janssen (not a PS3 fanboy, just Tokyo-Rose'ing for the war to end
>and the factories to reopen)
>ejanss1@verizon.net


I think that Paramount takes a bigger hit by releasing no frills titles
in the new format, proving that they are the same, money grubbing dopes
they were before.

A chapter liner and a few extra, like at least the trailers would be a
nice start. The lazy, money grubbing bastards.

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