Posted by Bill Vermillion on 10/17/07 18:04

In article <13ha82cqpjtrq6b@corp.supernews.com>,
Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>Tarkus <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote:
>> Doug Jacobs wrote:

>> > * More likely than not, we'll see hybrid or combo players
>> > before too long. While this solves the consumer's conndrum
>> > of choosing between, say, Transformers and Pirates, it
>> > basically turns the HD video market into the same mess that
>> > is today's burnable DVD market.

>> What's so messy about today's burnable DVD market?

>You've got DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, and then dual-layer
>variations of all of those.

They all work - I have no problem with them.

>Some devices can only play DVD-R(W)s, whereas some can only play
>DVD+R(W)s.

And most of those are gone. The early Panasonic DVRs only like
DVD-R and DVD-RAM, now they operate on all formats.

And I've not seen a player in years that won't handle most
everyithing.

>Which is which? Well, you won't know until you burn yourself a
>few coasters!

I've had a couple of coasters - but that was because somewhere the
signal into the DVR was corrupted by cable and the transfer from
HDD to DVD-R failed. The solution was to copy to DVD-RAM and then
copy it on my computer. I've had under 10 coasters in the last
year - with probably well over 1000 burnded disks. I'm into my
second box of 1000 paper sleeves.

>Yeah, that's a consumer friendly solution! Let's release 2
>formats that do the same thing, with no discernable differences
>to the consumer, and let them "choose" a winner! Oh wait, here's
>a multi-format burner that can handle both formats! So now both
>formats can "survive" but individual manfuacturers are still
>free to decide which format their devices will support. Yeah,
>that's a good win-win solution for everyone! Well, except for the
>consumer.

What I'm looking for is the next generation of the Blu-Ray for
data backup. The 100GB+ per disk makes it a better match for
todays' booming copacaties. I've had to upgrade tape drives for
customers. And don't say 'backup to disk' because at least one
of the customers 'business interuption insurance' will not pay
for revenue lost IF THERE ARE NOT OFF SITE BACKUPS. And rotating
disk drives in and out of building is a lot harder than having
someone take a tape home each night or two.

>Meanwhile, a CDR is a CDR is a CDR. There's none of this stupidity of
>having 2 identical, but incompatible, formats.

Not identical. Look at the specs. The Blu-Ray is more advanced
with everyting being record in 'the groove', while the HD records
some timing information on the land and other in the groove. That
strike me as more of a hack/kludge than real engineering.

>Going forward, do you see the HD formats getting any easier?
>We'll have Blu-Ray, Blu-Ray-R, Blu-Ray-RW and its variations for
>multi-layers, then we'll have HD-DVD, HD-DVD-R, HD-DVD-RW and its
>own variations for its multilayered discs.

I doubt it will get to that before one or the other formats take
over.

>It's not broken. It's...advanced.

I'll let you test drive it first - if you survive then it's ok.
It's like make the first flight in a home-built aircraft :-)
or :-(



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