Posted by David McCall on 10/23/07 17:51

"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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> "Frank" <frank@nojunkmail.humanvalues.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:40:53 -0700, in 'rec.video.production',
>> in article <Re: Starting to think about HD>,
>> "nappy" <n@n.n> wrote:
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>>>"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> I'm starting to plan my move to HD, which will probably be sometime in
>>>> February. A tape-based system is a must, as I'll be archiving projects
>>>> on
>>>> tape until feasible BluRay or HD burners are released.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by "feasible". Burners are available now,
>> although the discs certainly aren't cheaply priced.
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> I wasn't aware of any BluRay burners that could do video roms. Are they
> out now? At any rate, I'd rather wait for the next iteration of burners,
> which are sure to cost less, be faster, etc. Besides, _after_ buying my
> BluRay DVD player, I learned that it won't play BluRay DVD-R video (what
> is Sony thinking, anyway?), so there's no real hurry. There's also the
> very real possibility that BluRay will lose to HDV. I've still got my
> Betamax. I don't need to invest in the digital equivalent.
>
You are the last person I would think would say that you don't
know what Sony is thinking when it comes to rights protection :-)

We just had a client that wanted us to do an HD production on
Blue Ray. We did a fair amount of research and found that it just
wasn't practical in this application. We could have made a Blue Ray
dics that just played from one end to the other, but then the presenters
would have to be constantly lookat the back of the stage to see when
to pause the disc. It was in 12 segments. It was also going to cost a
lot for the burner and 2 players (the client wanted to have a backup.

Ultimately we went with HD-DVD and it worked out very well. The total
time was pretty short so we were able to burn to a standard DVD-R
using a standard DVD burner. We got the 3 players for under $500.
The best part was that we were able to fade to the logo at the end of
each segment then jump to a menu that was the same logo image
(no buttons). When you press OK it jumps to the next segment and
the logo fades out and the segment plays. We never go to black, just
to logo on gray. A lot of the material was standard def or pictures
smaller than 1920 x 1080m so that stuff had a gray matte and
sometimes the logo in the corner.

The beautiful part was that it could jump in and out of the menu with
such a small glitch that I couldn't even see iot most of the time even
if I was looking for it. We edited and authored it in Final Cut Studio.

We still haven't found a codec to use in After Effects (on a PC) that
behaves nicely in Final cut. Everything had to be rerendered before
it would play on the timeline. Yuck.

David

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