Posted by Bill on 10/23/07 19:16

You're right-- they are covered by CMRRA, which has a website that is
consirably more obtuse than Socan's. (In retrospect, I'm surprised the
woman I talked to didn't immediately refer me to CMRRA.)

I called the CMRRA and got voicemail, and asked to speak to someone
regarding a copyright issue pertaining to dance recitals and weddings.
I hope I hear back soon.

I think the SOCAN website could be a model for how mechanical rights
could be handled more simply and comprehensively by a single entity,
but, alas, I seriously doubt it well ever come to pass.

I am the very model of a modern copyrighter....

Richard Crowley wrote:
> "Bill" wrote ...
>
>>Here we go again. It's like a Gilbert and Sullivan Operetta.
>
>
> Remember that "Krazy Kanuk" is implying that he is in CA
> and most of the responders are viewing the question from
> the POV of US law.
>
>
>>That said, check out:
>>
>>http://www.socan.com/jsp/en/resources/tariffs.jsp
>
>
> There appears to be NO listed tarrifs for producers of either
> audio or film/video recorded works. Either those tarrifs are
> on some other page (?) or they are handled by some other
> agency, or they are negotiated case-by case just like here in
> the good ole' USA. :-((
>
>
>>I don't know what category this would fall under,
>
>
> A video recording which includes copyright-protected music
> would appear to be covered by NONE of the categories on
> that page.
>
> The more I read about SOCAN (particularly their FAQ page)
> the more it appears to be a *Performance Rights* organization.
> Note that ALL the tarrifs refer to live performances, and NONE
> of them refer to any recordings except those used to accompany
> live performance (or to broadcast the performances).
>
> They don't appear to deal with any kind of recording royalty
> payments (equivalent to "mechanical rights" for sound
> recordings or "synchronization rights" for film/video here in
> the USA)
>
>
>>but I suspect the fees will be quite reasonable. As in many, many areas
>>over the past twenty years, the Canadian government has shown moderation
>>and good sense where other governments have gone whacky. I find SOCAN
>>generally "reasonable", if a bit bureaucratic.
>
>
> Is there some *other* Canadian bueraucracy that handles
> recording royalties? They would appear to be the ones who
> control this sort of thing.
>
>
>>I'll bet you will find that the cost of being "legal" in this instance
>>will be quite fair and still allow you to make a profit from your DVDs.
>
>
> I wouldn't be holding my breath.
>
>

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