Posted by Smarty on 10/26/07 13:10

I know the 'wife acceptance factor' very well. Even after 40+ years of
marriage to the same very tolerant wife, I still hope the UPS truck will
arrive when she is not home....."

;)

Smarty


"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, I just ordered an HV20 from B&H. Don't tell my wife! ;)
>
>
> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>> Arny,
>>
>> I am totally unfamiliar with the "green square in the upper right corner"
>> issue you refer to, and suggest you post this question on the most active
>> HV20 forum I know of, at:
>>
>> http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=139
>>
>> I find it really hard to believe that this is a design flaw in the
>> camera, and assume it is more likely a defect in your specific camera and
>> would be repaired under warranty.
>>
>> As regards latency, I am again at a bit of loss to understand your
>> comment. Since you are apparently not recording the camera output, but
>> merely using the HV20 as a video camera, you may be seeing a delay in the
>> HDMI or Firewire output due to the time it takes for the camera to encode
>> the video / audio, and then the additional time it takes for your monitor
>> to decode them. Having not used the HV20 as a live camera, I cannot
>> confirm that this indeed does happen with the HV20, but it would not
>> surprise me at all. In this regard, I imagine that both Firewire and HDMI
>> output from any of the HD (and SD) cameras will exhibit this to a lesser
>> or greater extent. If the lag time between the live scene and the monitor
>> display is objectionable, you could see if the connection you are is
>> using analog or digital, and if digital, whether you are using Firewire
>> or HDMI, both of which the camera provides. It would very likely improve
>> the latency if you switched from Firewire to HDMI, and further improve it
>> if you switched from either of these to analog (component) output. This
>> is a rather simple experiment to conduct, and assumes your monitor
>> supports the different input modes. Component output should exhibit the
>> least lag, but this may still be objectionable.
>>
>> I have not tried the tele adapter, but frankly think that 10X optical
>> zoom and the 200X effective digital zoom, is difficult enough to control
>> / stabilize, even with a tripod. High def demands a nice, stable image,
>> and my own experience with the 10X optical combined with the effective
>> 200X digital zoom makes the need for an extra tele lens very unlikely. As
>> an experiment, I would suggest engaging the digital zoom and watching how
>> well this "tele adapter" really works in the situation you describe. If
>> the view of the now enlarged pulpit at 120 feet away is stable with the
>> various movement you have in the room (footsteps, tripod shake, pulpit
>> and people movement, etc.), then an add-on optical tele extender may be
>> the answer. The digital zoom sacrifices detail / resolution and I am not
>> suggesting it as a the 'final' solution, but rather as a way to
>> anticipate how much jitter / shake / movement the scene is likely to
>> undergo before investing in the optical tele lens accessory.
>>
>> Hope these provide some useful help to you.
>>
>> Smarty
>>
>>
>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>> news:9N2dnS2TI-1F4L3anZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> I've been touting the HV20 for quite a while now, and it is really a
>>>> true bargain, a joy to travel with, and remarkably capable.
>>>
>>> We use a HV20 at church, primarily as a 4:3 format camera with video
>>> output. We don't use the built-in recorder.
>>>
>>> The image quality was a fantastic upgrade over its predecessor, but I
>>> have two complaints:
>>>
>>> (1) The green square in the upper right hand corner, which I don't know
>>> how to make go away.
>>>
>>> (2) As a camera, it seems to have a lot of latency.
>>>
>>>> Also quite surprising to me is the fact that Canon's wide angle (high
>>>> def) adapter, made specifically for the HV-20, takes the lens out to a
>>>> very respectable field of view but does not compromise sharpness,
>>>> chromatic aberration / fringing, or shown vignetting. On a stable
>>>> tripod with the wide angle converter, this little camera makes truly
>>>> excellent landscape, panorama, and nature shots look as good and often
>>>> better than anything I can see here off of commercial BluRay, HD
>>>> satellite, cable, etc.
>>>
>>> Any experience with the tele-adaptor? We use ours mostly to shoot at a
>>> pulpit which is about 120 feet away, and the image quality at that
>>> distance is reduced in quality (still worlds better than the
>>> predecessor), apparently by operation at max zoom.
>>>
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