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Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 11/16/07 18:20
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<ebbe9827-0ecd-432d-9e66-be526f16caba@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
ninphan <sjburke73@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 10:22 am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <4cbe4a63-a48f-47b8-bd7f-bbc930a1e...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
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> > ninphan <sjburk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 15, 8:16 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <Wn6%i.4677$OJ.2170@trndny06>,
> > > > Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Strangely, HDDVD players out there don't seem to have as many issues
> > > > when users don't do the FW upgrade as do most BD players.- Hide quoted
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> > > Wow, which HD DVD users are you reading comments from?
> > > The BD problems seem pretty minor to the number of people having
> > > problems with Combo discs, not to mention I've yet to hear of a Blu-
> > > ray disc needing to be boiled.
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> > As with most things, bitchers post more! <G>
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> > The boiling discs was a BS issue to begin with and was reported by so
> > few it is laughable and was all over and done with quite awhile ago. It
> > only applied to some rental discs from even the most ardent bitchers.
> >
> > Of course, this shows that the BD guys never stretch the truth when
> > talking about HDDVD, right? :-)
> >
> > There were 3 firmware upgrades out before I ever got 1 of them and nary
> > a burp from any HDDVD disc. New ones, old ones, combos, you name it,
> > all worked well.
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> > BD OTOH, had to have the FW to make some of the new movies even load.
> > And the idiot Liars Dice game never did work well on anything other than
> > a PS3.
> >
> > My PS3 should be here sometime today and I can retire that S300 to
> > somewhere else. I should mark it as one of the many Beta level machines
> > from Sony and others. Of course, that pretty much describes the entire
> > BD industry.- Hide quoted text -
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> You're flat out lying about the Liar's Dice game now. Sorry there's no
> other way to tell it, you're flat out lying.
> I have a DMP-BD10A, it works fine on that.
> I have a Sharp BD-HP20U, not only does it work fine, but the disc
> loads in 18 seconds.
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> The boiling issue was WIDESPREAD on AVS, which is where the majority
> of HD DVD users are.
> Sorry, but there are only 420,000 HD DVD players at the moment and
> most owners own more than one player. The Matrix discs were boiled,
> plain and simple. The reason? Hundreds of people were reporting
> playability issues with them.
>
> Anyone who wants to figure this out for themselves need only search
> AVS Forum, advanced search, word "boiling" and/or "boil" and highlight
> only the HD DVD Software then HD DVD Hardware forums. you'll see it
> was not Blu-ray supporters talking about it, but HD DVD fanboys
> looking for instructions on how long to boil, best boiling methods.
>
> It was pathetic, just like the HD DVD format which will not survive
> past Christmas 2008.
The Liars Dice game is still problematic. You can spout about how well
it plays and all that, but it is bullshit!
The keyword in the boiling crapola is "WAS", but even then it was BS. I
had my player during that time and not only did I not ever see that be a
cure, none of the people I actually knew that had HDDVD ever boiled
their discs either.
We did clean rental discs, but hell I do that with BD and SD discs too.
I don't want your rented crud coming into my good machine.
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