Posted by Amused on 11/18/07 23:10

"AnimalMagic" <AnimalMagic@petersbackyard.org> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:32:19 -0600, "Amused" <jkcopeland@carsoncomm.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:473E25C1.77D0EE78@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Tarkus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul Heslop wrote:
>>>> > dmcg wrote:
>>>> >> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
>>>> >> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
>>>> >> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my
>>>> >> stand-
>>>> >> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
>>>> >> from another spindle, on my PC.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
>>>> >> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
>>>> >> offer some insight.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> D.
>>>> >
>>>> > your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
>>>> > it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
>>>> > discs without an upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't all discs backwards compatible all the way to 1x? I don't see
>>>> where the speed of the discs is an issue. Their listed speeds are the
>>>> maximum, not the minimum.
>>>
>>> I am sure I have seen it mentioned that 16X speed discs may not be
>>> compatible with some drives which the firmware was not written for
>>> 16X. I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. :O)
>>>
>>> actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
>>> but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
>>>
>>> http://www.tiktak-it.co.uk/acatalog/Blank_DVD-R_Discs.html
>>>
>>> "TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
>>> DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
>>> (DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
>>> provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
>>> (ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
>>> recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
>>> store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
>>> SP mode (DVD quality)."
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul (We won't die of devotion)
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Stop and Look
>>> http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
>>
>>
>>Just a passing observation, with no real support. I have an 18-x rated
>>Sony
>>burner. I routinely, manually re-set the burn speed down to at least 12x
>>and usually 8x because I was getting too many disks that would appear to
>>burn, but fail to play. (Disks are almost exclusively Verbatim. I have
>>learned my lesson about buying cheap disks.) I have both Nero and Roxio,
>>as
>>well as some others and while the default burn speed is usually,
>>"automatic", they do allow a Manuel set.
>>
>>It may be annoying not to be able to burn at rated speeds, it's MUCH more
>>annoying to have to re-burn disks because they won't play.
>>
>>James...
>
>
> Most current, well made drives will burn at max speed, and be readable
> on any drive.
>
> The reason is that the lasers have multiple power settings. The old
> drives had a single power setting, which gave rise to a contrast ratio
> issue on the written data.
>
> Have you checked with Sony to see if there is a firmware update?
>
> They are likely not using the right power setting for the higher speed
> burns.
>
> I currently burn all my discs at the max rate, and haven't experienced
> a read issue in years. But contrast ratio is the reason and low burn
> power is the cause,
>
> I have HP and LG drives.

It's a Sony G170S, less than three months old.
Sony AW-G170S 18X Double Layer (8.5GB) DVD+-RW Dual Drive, SATA drive. I
suppose there might be a firmware updates, but I have to admit, I've never
thought about checking.

Oh, geeze.....looks like there maybe an update...

Kinda hard to tell...

http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7170A/

I think I'll just leave well enough, alone...

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