Posted by ChairmanOfTheBored on 11/18/07 23:20

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:10:50 -0600, "Amused" <jkcopeland@carsoncomm.com>
wrote:

>"AnimalMagic" <AnimalMagic@petersbackyard.org> wrote in message
>news:ub11k3pc50e3c89g4aphrc55pfsehn1cgu@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:32:19 -0600, "Amused" <jkcopeland@carsoncomm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:473E25C1.77D0EE78@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> Tarkus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Heslop wrote:
>>>>> > dmcg wrote:
>>>>> >> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
>>>>> >> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
>>>>> >> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my
>>>>> >> stand-
>>>>> >> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
>>>>> >> from another spindle, on my PC.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
>>>>> >> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
>>>>> >> offer some insight.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> D.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
>>>>> > it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
>>>>> > discs without an upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't all discs backwards compatible all the way to 1x? I don't see
>>>>> where the speed of the discs is an issue. Their listed speeds are the
>>>>> maximum, not the minimum.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure I have seen it mentioned that 16X speed discs may not be
>>>> compatible with some drives which the firmware was not written for
>>>> 16X. I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. :O)
>>>>
>>>> actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
>>>> but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tiktak-it.co.uk/acatalog/Blank_DVD-R_Discs.html
>>>>
>>>> "TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
>>>> DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
>>>> (DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
>>>> provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
>>>> (ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
>>>> recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
>>>> store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
>>>> SP mode (DVD quality)."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Paul (We won't die of devotion)
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Stop and Look
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
>>>
>>>
>>>Just a passing observation, with no real support. I have an 18-x rated
>>>Sony
>>>burner. I routinely, manually re-set the burn speed down to at least 12x
>>>and usually 8x because I was getting too many disks that would appear to
>>>burn, but fail to play. (Disks are almost exclusively Verbatim. I have
>>>learned my lesson about buying cheap disks.) I have both Nero and Roxio,
>>>as
>>>well as some others and while the default burn speed is usually,
>>>"automatic", they do allow a Manuel set.
>>>
>>>It may be annoying not to be able to burn at rated speeds, it's MUCH more
>>>annoying to have to re-burn disks because they won't play.
>>>
>>>James...
>>
>>
>> Most current, well made drives will burn at max speed, and be readable
>> on any drive.
>>
>> The reason is that the lasers have multiple power settings. The old
>> drives had a single power setting, which gave rise to a contrast ratio
>> issue on the written data.
>>
>> Have you checked with Sony to see if there is a firmware update?
>>
>> They are likely not using the right power setting for the higher speed
>> burns.
>>
>> I currently burn all my discs at the max rate, and haven't experienced
>> a read issue in years. But contrast ratio is the reason and low burn
>> power is the cause,
>>
>> I have HP and LG drives.
>
>It's a Sony G170S, less than three months old.
>Sony AW-G170S 18X Double Layer (8.5GB) DVD+-RW Dual Drive, SATA drive. I
>suppose there might be a firmware updates, but I have to admit, I've never
>thought about checking.
>
>Oh, geeze.....looks like there maybe an update...
>
>Kinda hard to tell...
>
>http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7170A/
>
>I think I'll just leave well enough, alone...
>
I'm sure that the official Sony site would be the correct place to
look. A lot of those third party "updates" are hacks to kill the region
code, etc.

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