Posted by Arny Krueger on 12/01/07 11:12

"Jack" <jack@beanstalk.net> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in
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>> "Jack" <jack@beanstalk.net> wrote in message
>> news:13kv3v7g4rdoa4f@corp.supernews.com
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:474EB9A0.BE11E4B3@hotmail.com:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> Audio compression will stay around for some uses.
>>>>>> CPUs and algorithms will always be much cheaper than
>>>>>> long distance bandwidth and wireless bandwidth.
>>>>>> Regardless of how fast the internet gets, 10x
>>>>>> compression still means 10x customer capacity. 10x
>>>>>> compression on your mobile player means 10x the room
>>>>>> for music.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, there are now warnings of Internet bottlenecks
>>>>> by 2010 due to multimedia content and increased
>>>>> population/usership.
>>>>
>>>> The usual scaremongering. Journalists are clueless
>>>> about technology.
>>>>
>>>> The pipes will simply get bigger to take the load.
>>>
>>> Like oil will keep flowing no matter what? They are
>>> warning that billion$ must be spent now to make sure it
>>> doesn't happen. The Net was not originally conceived for
>>> this much audio and video transfer.
>>
>> Things change. Arpanet was not designed to support the
>> world wide web. It could barely do light email.
>
> My comment was also about people's perception that growth
> (of any kind) can go on without limits in a finite world.


Straw man. Everybody knows that the world and even the part of the universe
that we can explore in any sense is finite. The only question is how limited
our resources really are.

> It's a mass-delusion of modern life in the oil age.

Talk about someone with something to sell!

> At some point Internet capacity will peak, just like the
> ability to supply electricity to power it all.

The internet is getting to be far more energy-efficient. The amount of power
it takes to run it might peak, but that is a different thing than what you
are talking about, Jack,

> Computers/servers have become a major energy hog.

Actually, the amount of power that a desktop computer draws from the power
line (system unit) has been fairly stable at about 100 watts. Since we
started trading 100 watt + CRTs for 35 watt LCDs, the average power used by
a typical PC system has probabaly dropped quite a bit. Laptops use far less
power and are a bigger fraction of the market than ever. The growth of the
numbers of PC's will probably fall off once there is one for everybody to
have their own.

Finally, lossy coders for audio have become far better than they once were.
If you want to really hear some bad coders, try

http://www.pcabx.com/product/coder_decoder/index.htm

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