Posted by Joe on 12/27/07 13:58

Bob, where are you kayaking? Alaska? I got my first kayak about 4 years ago
and use it in many lakes in western New England. Not sure I'd feel
comfortable in the ocean!

Some bikers mount cams on helmets- you should try that sometime, then you
can continue controlling your kayak.

Joe
PS: yuh, put some of your stuff up on YouTube!

"Bob Noble" <bnoble@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Ah, the AVCHD thing. Hadn't thought of that.
> This could be a valid point.
> However, this is my first video camera, the HG10 and it has helped me take
> some exceptional footage.
> My knowledge of other cameras is rather limited, so I don't dare argue one
> way or the other on much of anything about video cameras.
>
> I will just state why I was attracted to this particular camera. Most of
> my shooting is out of a kayak, which means I am always in motion, even
> when the kayak is still in the water. This is because water is never
> still, it is always moving, either sideways or up and down and sometimes
> in all directions.
> I was using still digital camera's, but always missing a lot of the action
> shots, either because I was waiting for my camera after a shot, or the
> movement of my subject or me was blurring the picture. Sometimes I was
> just so into what was happening in front of me, I just stopped shooting.
> I noticed as I upgraded to newer generation still camera's, I was getting
> less blurred pictures, but still missing a lot of shots. Each of these
> cameras always came out with improved stabilization or anti shake stuff.
>
> Than the stars came together and the money and it was time to try a video
> camera.
> The HG10 caught my eye and it was due out in a month. What caught my eye
> the most was the anti shake built into the lens and all the other anti
> shake stuff built into the camera. It even has an anti shake thing built
> into the digital 200x zoom. Canon says, to do HD well, one needs a very
> steady camera, so that's why they built these features into this camera.
> I was concerned about the AVCHD part, and did some research and decided
> what the hey. The best way to find out about something is to buy it and
> use it.
> An added plus I hadn't considered is the 200x digital zoom. Yes, I know
> the digital zoom just blows up the digital picture and isn't considered as
> good as a lens zoom. But before, a lot of times I'd see this water getting
> slinged into the air a few hundred yards away and wonder what it was. As I
> approached, it would stop.
> Now, I can use the camera as a monocular and see exactly what is happening
> and take videos of it that still come out quite good. If I want an action
> still, I play the video on the camera and stop it on the frame I want and
> push the still button and I have an action still I likely wouldn't have
> gotten.
>
> Now, as far as HD or AVCHD, I would have just preferred the HD as things
> are confusing enough and it wasn't an option on this camera anyway.
> I do find that the optics and technology built into this cam may help to
> offset the drawbacks of the AVCHD. I haven't had the camera long enough to
> get into a lot of editing yet and may find more of the AVCHD compression
> artifacts showing up. But so far things look very well with the AVCHD.
> With the kind of movement I can have taking video's, I'm sure I'd find bad
> stuff while using any format.
>
> I carry this camera on my chest with a neck strap. It's not waterproof,
> but, so far, I haven't tipped over,......yet. I tried it in a water proof
> bag, but getting it out to shot took too long and made too much noise. I'm
> on the water about three hours, almost every day with it.
> You are likely wondering what the heck I'm shooting?
> A lot of it is seals chasing, catching and eating large steelhead or
> salmon fish. Otters and other critters. We are just coming into this years
> steelhead runs, so I hope to get better shots this year than I have in the
> past.
> I think with consumer cams taking on a lot of the professional cams stuff,
> the differences are fast becoming not so important and the real skill will
> just be how one uses his cam in an art-ee way to acquire pleasing video.
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> --
> Bob Noble
> http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
> news:5tccbjF1bp7auU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Bob Noble" <bnoble@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> news:47705e80$0$84239$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> Am I missing something?
>>> What is the Canon HG 10?
>>> Isn't it the model that replaces the HD20?
>>
>> It's not a replacement for the HV20. The HG10 is a hard-disk based
>> machine that uses bandwidth-limited AVCHD compression and cannot shoot
>> 24p. The HV20 is a tape-based machine that uses full HDV compression and
>> can shoot 24p.
>>
>> The result is that better video is obtained from the HV20 than the HG10
>> (fewer artifacts, better detail). And, of course, the HV20 is still
>> manufactured and sold. The demographics for the two cameras are somewhat
>> different, however. The HV20 appeals to amateurs and some professionals,
>> who care about video quality and can use the camera for
>> quasi-professional applications, e.g. short films, student films, wedding
>> videos, etc. The HG10 appeals to the point-and-shoot crowd who only want
>> a simple way to take "high-definition" video of junior's birthday party.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Noble
>>> http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
>

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