Posted by ChairmanOfTheBored on 01/06/08 13:22

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:19:48 GMT, Derek Janssen
<ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> In article <KEVfj.59111$rc2.45784@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
>> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lloydparsons-D9EB73.18420405012008@news.individual.net...
>>>
>>>>The competition that was good for the consumer was the phony war. The
>>>>prices of both BD and HDDVD would never have gotten as low as they have
>>>>if BD had been the only one. Or have you forgotten Sony's very vocal
>>>>indication that profits and prices weren't going to be anything like DVD?
>>>>
>>>>Now we'll see some improvements and price reductions, but at a far
>>>>slower pace than if the war kept going for a bit longer.
>>>>
>>>>I've got both HDDVD and BD players so I really don't give a damn which
>>>>one ended up, just wanted it delayed some more. I most likely won't buy
>>>>many (maybe none) more HDDVD discs.
>>>
>>>That really makes no sense. Assuming that BD wins out, you will have the
>>>same number of hardware manufacturers competing with each other, including
>>>Toshiba to drive prices down. Admittedly, BD will always cost a bit more
>>>than HDDVD because of its technical design, but if you look at the way
>>>computers, flat panel TV's and even regular DVD players have declined in
>>>price over the last 5 years, one can expect similar declines in BD player
>>>prices.
>>>
>>>This may not help the early adopters much, but companies like WB are looking
>>>at the long term view with the bulk of consumers who are not going to
>>>purchase BD or HDDVD in mass any time soon anyway.
>>
>>
>> You are not listening to the BD mfgs at all are you? They have said
>> that today's prices are artificially DEFLATED! Doesn't that give you
>> any hint at to what to expect them to do?
>
>Yes, it means they'll stop losing money on trying to clear unsold
>product by slashing it below safe profit margins, and gaining *negative*
>income on each "cheap player" sold--
>And start trying to balance output with income, streamlining and
>improving their own product for the marketplace, and bringing their
>production up to a point where production costs no longer sabotage their
>hopes of a low shelf price.
>
>Just because Sony, Panasonic and Samsung aren't competing with Toshiba
>anymore doesn't mean they aren't competing with EACH OTHER...
>
>> Really take a look at the BD machines out there. With a couple of
>> exceptions, they are grossly overpriced for the crappy way they operate.
>
>Well, then, um, maybe those players won't sell.
>Unless they find a way of competing with said PS3 exceptions, which does
>seem to be selling/functioning at the moment, and trying to keep up with
>the race.
>
>...Welcome to capitalism. :)
>


More like "Welcome to seeing us patching up what is essentially a poor
design schema."

If they were not so damned concerned with "security" the shit would
work a lot faster, and a lot better.

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