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Posted by iluvzlayur on 09/17/05 04:08
FatKat wrote:
> If you don't get greedy? But if you remain a paragon among cheap
> assholes you can pretty much get away with anything.
Why the name-calling? If you aren't a cheap asshole, why would you
download any song from WinMx when you already know that other people
have been successfully prosecuted for exactly that? You are a cheap
asshole too.
> Of course
> cheapness or greed really isn't the issue as much as purposeless
> stupidity, namely the effort and expense that you have gone through
> just to get what many of us already have obtained through file share.
I takes me about 1 hour to rip two new cd's and return them to the
store. That's about 35 songs. Plus I have a different mindset than
you; I like to do it because I like the challenge of defeating the
system and getting away with it.
> We are cheaper, not because we're that careful with our money, but
> can't imagine going to the above trouble needlessly.
It's neither purposeless nor needless....you get free songs which are
indisputably of good quality.
> An exacto knife
> and glue? Cutting carefully around the edges? Careful and judicious
> timing of your returns? "The Great Escape" didn't require that much
> planning.
But some people who love music, would think my procedure IS worth the
effort. Do ALL New Yorkers immediately assume that they way they think
is the way everybody else thinks?
> Among tales of music piracy, the above pedantry amounts to
> "The Da Vinci Code" of music bootlegging.
False analogy; the da vinci code is bullshit, but there's no bullshit
or fakery about ripping cd's. Unless you don't really want the songs,
and you just keep deleting them after you rip them.
> We dishonest freeloading
> bastards share our stuff, rather than stick somebody else for paying
> for our left-overs.
Methinks the RIAA is getting stuck by everybody who obtains their
copyrighted music without paying for it. There is simply no denying
that they lose money due to such file-sharing.
> BTW, has anybody on this NG ever worked in a store
> where this sort of thing was discovered after the return was made? I
> wonder what happens to the cashier who signs off on that return.
> Hmmmmm
I have. I worked a returns and exchanges counter for about 2 weeks. I
fired after I refunded money to my friend who returned 26 cd's she
bought earlier that day. None of them had the plastic wrapping on
them, and none of them had the cd's in them either. My manager yelled
"goddam!" when he found out. I am currently suing them for religious
discrimination.
> Also that bit about 5000 songs in a few months - maybe I'm not quite
> the music connosueir that you are, but DL problems aren't the cause of
> my small collection. If there were 5000 songs worth listening to, I'd
> probably DL them.
You aren't quite the music connosueir I am.
> The only stuff I couldn't get is likely so obscure
> that few music stores would be likely to have it either.
I have lots of obscure stuff that i haven't seen anywhere else. For
example, an hour's worth of recording outtakes by Garth Brooks, singing
"the dance".
Anyway, just
> how far and wide would you have to go to "buy" 5000 songs worth of
> albums to return without arousing suspicion?
5 stores in my city, each with at least 4 different people that work
the returns counter. And you can return to the same person if you wait
and return to other clerks and stores first. One clerk accepts returns
from me every single day, and she neither knows me nor remembers me. We
have sex every other night. The more music she allows me to return,
the more I put out in bed. When she once allowed me to return 13 new
dvds, she got written up for it at work. But she said that night was
the best sex she ever got from me. I buy her alcohol, she helps with
my scheme. It's a world gone mad.
> Seems to me that at some
> point, somebody's going to remember you, and those butterflies in your
> stomach (?!) will have an excuse to let loose.
I was remembered one time by a female clerk at a K-Mart. She was about
to refuse the return, and turned to speak to her manager. I sucker
punched her in the back of the head. The police were called and the
one of them speedily refunded my money while the clerk I punched lay on
the booth floor, vomitting and dizzy.
> The funniest bit is that you're going through this wear and tear
> because you can't get into open nap.
Good point, however, it also has to do with me using up time to
download a song from WinMx, then playing it and discovering that it is
either some other song entirely, or sounds very gritty, in definance of
the stats WinMx showed for them.
If you spent a fraction of the
> above effort just learning how open nap works (and I suspect you could
> do with some help on WPN as well) you probably wouldn't need to resort
> to reliving "Catch me if you can" every time you wanted to get some
> great music.
But again, I love the feeling of knowing I have defeated a protection
scheme and gotten away with it. That's why I never wear condoms when I
have one-night stands in other states.
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