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Posted by anthonyberet on 09/19/05 23:12
khobar wrote:
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>>khobar wrote:
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>>>>khobar wrote:
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>>>>>>Karrde wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>"Nate" <thejedi@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>Does any one have a copy of the Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
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> movie
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>>>>>>>>>>without a counter display? Every copy i've downloaded so far is
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> just
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>>>>>the
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>>>>>>>>>>same file with a different name and it has something like:
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>>>>>>>>>You realize that you've just admitted to committing a felony
>>>>>>>>>on a global newsgroup......Right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>copyright infringement is not a felony. you can be sued, but it is
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>>>not
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>>>>>>>>illegal.
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>>>>>>>Just because it's not a felony doesn't mean it's not illegal. At the
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>>>>>very
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>>>>>>>least, it's a shitty thing to do. I've heard all of the attempts to
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>>>>>justify
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>>>>>>>it, but it's still stealing.
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>>>>>>OH, FFS! - When is this old chestnut going to be put to bed?
>>>>>>- It is *not* stealing. The legal definition of stealing is quite
>>>>>>specific, and does not apply to copyright infringement.
>>>>>>You may personally think it is morally equivalent to stealing, but it
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> is
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>>>>>>quite untrue to say it *is* stealing.
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>>>>>Please post the legal definition of stealing.
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>>>>In which jurisdiction?
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>>>Whichever one you were referring to when you said the "legal definition
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> of
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>>>stealing is quite
>>>specific, and does not apply to copyright infringement."
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>>Sorry, I was being sarky ;-)
>>Obviously the defs are quite long, but Wikipedia boils it down to:
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>>'In the common law, theft is usually defined as the unauthorised taking
>>or use of someone else's property with the intent to permanently deprive
>>the owner or the person with rightful possession of that property or its
>>use.'
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
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> I notice both theft and copyright infringement are "actus reus" which,
> according to your own source is: "the criminal act which, in combination
> with the mens rea, produces criminal liability in common law based criminal
> law jurisdictions such as the United States, Australia, Canada and the
> United Kingdom." I also note that in copyright infringement, "mens rea" need
> not be proven.
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Yeah, did you notice that copyright infringement is not theft?
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>>Consider this as well: if copyright infringement were legally definable
>>as theft, why don't the RIAA etc charge their victims with theft,
>>instead of threatening to sue them for copyright infringement?
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> The RIAA does not have the authority to bring criminal charges.
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They wouldn't need it - they could just report it to the police.
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