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Posted by George Hester on 10/23/05 17:06
"anthonyberet" <nospam@me.invalid> wrote in message
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> George Hester wrote:
> > "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:QTH6f.99602$7b6.31448@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >
> >>"anthonyberet" <nospam@me.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:3s08crFlttrkU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >>>George Hester wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"anthonyberet" <nospam@me.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>>news:3ruqehFln7ngU1@individual.net...
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> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Furthermore those who share partials are ripping off the d/lder.
>
> Not convinced. - My experience is that it is an essential service.
>
> > Say you
> > have a partial and and someone has a file you want. First you are not
going
> > to ask someone for his partial. You are only going to ask someone who
has
> > the entire file because you hope it completes.
>
> That is true, assuming that there is a complete file within your search
> horizon at the time.
>
> > To avoid the File Mismatch
> > error secondarily to your desire to have the complete file. Now if we
keep
> > our partials in our shares and someone starts not by trade and then as
they
> > get all excited they are finally going to finish the file it goes BLEEP!
> > RED! DISCONNECTED! Now you as the d/lder are not a happy camper anymore
are
> > you? In fact you are wondering why the sharer cut you off. Well they
> > didn't. They were sharing partials.
>
> Data is data. - Complete data is best, but incomplete data is better
> than no data.
>
> > And now you will be a lucky dog if
> > that file will ever d/l again.
>
> On the contrary, I find it works out fine time and time again.
>
> > When I see a user with a partial
> > contributing to one of my partials I cancel them out. I don't want that
> > from them. It's too risky.
> >
> Fair enough - I hope you don't cut them off if they are uploading from
> you though. - They are trying to help you, after all.
Yes I do cut off users that are downloading from me that is who I am
uploading to. Users that share 0 files will get cut off if I see them. And
yes I do cut off users u/l to me who are doing so with a partial if I catch
them doing that and if I have experienced the File Mismatch error on that
file in the past.
Your defense (US sp) of sharing partials is that it contributes to the
Networks viability. Well maybe don't know all I know is that it is the sole
cause of the File Mismatch error. The only cause. There are other
explanations for why this error occurs. They must start somewhere so maybe
these other explanations hold water. Just that I have never experienced
them.
Let me tell you this little story. There is a file in the Network which
will never complete unless you get it from a user who has it complete. You
don't have to get it from that one user you just have to make sure you never
get any of it from anyone with a partial. That's not easy to do. I told a
trader to turn off automatic search on this file as I was u/l it to him. He
didn't. Next time we connected he wanted to finish it and sure enough he
was corrupted. This file I know how much to take off to get back to a
viable file. But many more I don't. Remember we are taling about big files
on order 800MB. This issue is not so evident with mp3s on order of 5MB.
--
George Hester
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