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Re: Incompletes - do I share or not?

Posted by Don M. on 10/18/98 11:30

"db" <@ .> wrote in message news:4361419a$0$73616$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>
> "anthonyberet" wrote in message news:3scpk3FnlntfU1@individual.net...
> > George Hester wrote:
> >> "anthonyberet" wrote in message news:3s7pdqFmvoanU2@individual.net...
> >>>Don Wiss wrote:
> >>>>On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:05:44 +0100, anthonyberet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>There are arguments against sharing incomplets, such as
> >>>>>quality-checking
> >>>>>etc, but don't forget that incomplete large files (over 100mb total) are
> >>>>>pretty much essential for large files to propagate effectivley.
> >>>>
> >>>>I disagree. Because of leeching the WinMX is upload bandwidth constricted.
> >>>>Even many people that share a lot of files choke down their upload
> >>>>bandwidth. So getting bytes is dependent on this limitation, and not
> >>>>whether you are downloading from a completed file or an incomplete.
> >>>>
> >>>>The only time incompletes help bandwidth is from the people that only share
> >>>>incompletes. If they didn't share them they would not be supplying any
> >>>>bytes into the network.
> >>>>
> >>>er hang on, are you saying that although I share complete files and large
> >>>incomplete files, when somebody downloads from an incomplete, that this
> >>>doesn't help the network?
> >>>Data is data - as long as not corrupted, more sources of a file are
> >>>always going to help, not hinder.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anthony 100% shared files which are uncorrupted because they are full are
> >> better than 2% of INCOMPLETE files wherein they are corrupted.
> >
> > Yes I agree - that isn't what I am promoting though.
> >
> >> I chose 2%
> >> that is very small. The file I am thinking about has 95% corrunpted on
> >> the
> >> Network all partials which you think is good to share.
> >
> > I think it is better to share them yes, although not ideal.
> > I would rather be able to get 95%, even if I need to trim.
> > However, if I *never* saw a full file, I wouldn't download it in the first
> > place, let alone share it!
> >
> >> And that is not the
> >> only one. If all users shared just complete files that would be the end of
> >> the File Mismatch error.
> >
> > That is simply not true - corruption can occur when crashing during a
> > download of a complete file, just as surely as with an incomplete.
> >
> >> Now I know if your files are under 5MB that is no
> >> big deal but files that are 1GB this can be a major pain in the butt.
> >> Because once corrupted they will drown out the valid files.
> >>
> > I can't see why they would drown out the complete files, unless the
> > complete files have disappeared from the network.
>
> Oh my, anyone remember this?;
> http://www.nodata.plus.com/stuff/incompletes.htm
>
> :o
>
=========

Absolutely! <as I reach for the bottle of aspirin>
Loco is the only participant still active in the group. IIRC Gronaad made mincemeat of
uk-bandit, got his head handed to him in a brown bag and sent the dude packing for the
highlands never to be seen or heard from again, but neither one is here to confirm or
contest. :)


Don

 

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