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Posted by Phillip Kyle on 10/25/05 14:07
Ted Capuano <lx3nwn7@kzhg6.com> verbally sodomised in
news:ko0rl1tncp7t19943jqcndm65mj5ib0htb@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Dewsbery"
> <richard@dewsbery.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Yes, it's that special time again. So please do not feed the trolls.
>>Particularly the cross-posting variety.
>
> Are you the Richard Dewsbery who wrote this to the now exposed private
> mailing list "ng_abuse"?
>
> <Quote>
>
> ISPs have to tread warily where posters using their services are
> libelling other people. Although I am not a media lawyer, I would
> cite as authority for the proposition that an ISP can be liable for
> acts of its subscribers the case of Godfrey vs Demon Internet.
> Although the case was ultimately settled out of court by Demon, a
> first instance ruling had held that they could be liable for
> carrying posts authored by a third party if they didn't remove the
> posts when asked from the servers.
>
> The effect of this is to make all ISPs think carefully about whether
> they want bloody nuisances as customers, as each time the nuisance
> posts something insulting the victim can complain, and if the
> message isn't deleted at source, the ISP gets to pay damages. After
> a few complaints from different individuals, the ISP is well advised
> to pull the account rather than risk missing a few deletions and
> getting whacked by a High Court defamation suit.
>
> I gather that some of the current crop of most virulent trolls may
> be real people, with an academic access to the net. Either the
> academic establishment is acting as its own ISP, or it has an
> outside ISP - it matters not, a few cease and desist letters and
> either ought to pull the offenders' net priveleges. Regardless of
> what certain news server admins may think about it (letters
> involving lawyers in suits usually end up on more important desks).
>
> What we need is concrete evidence of how the messages are being
> posted, and by whom and to what servers; some innocent victims who
> have been the subject of defamatory postings; and some sharply-
> worded letters before action to the ISP or establishment through
> which the abuse has been posted. Sledgehammer to crack a nut, but
> it seems that the only other solutions require us to put up with the
> little gits. I'll happily help out with any letters before action -
> with the provisos that I'm not an expert on defamation, nor will I
> be involved in any litigation either as claimant or representative.
>
> </Quote>
Yes, he's also the kind gentleman who sent me this nice email:
<Quote>
From : Richard Dewsbery <richard@dewsbery.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent : Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:07 PM
To : <philkyle2003@hotmail.com>
Subject : Crossposting Twats
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Are you the twat that is cross-posting all sorts of garbage to half the UK
newsgroups, or an unwittin g victim of some other twat using your website
address?
R M Dewsbery
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