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Posted by NunYa Bidness on 10/06/05 20:57
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:25:01 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) Gave
us:
>In article <64s1k1lkt9qegu0588364beegr8gi7bqt1@4ax.com>,
>Impmon <impmon@digi.mon> wrote:
>>On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:
>>
>>>By 2008 everything will shut down gradually on recording.
>>>
>>>You keep insisting that 'something' will make it possible. Only for
>>>lawbreakers.
>>
>>There's another way: class action lawsuit. I believe the old ruling
>>that allowed time shifting when lawsuit was filed against VCR by big
>>name studios some 20 years ago.
Try 30 years. It was filed in 1976.
> The right to record anything for
>>later viewing remained and I'm sure it still remains today.
That depends on the source medium.
>That was the Betamax case. Disney vs Sony [actually a user who had
>a Betamax].
It was Universal Studios, as well as Disney, and it was on behalf of
ALL the Hollywood majors.
>The ruling was that it was legal to record anything that was
>>>BROADCAST<< and does not apply to such things as cable networks
>or satellite networks.
I didn't see that. It was related to time shifted recording. Cable
was in it's infancy then and Satellite certainly was. I doubt it was
even discussed at the time, though it may have been since or in the
appeals.
>
>The idea was that since it was free for viewing by anyone who had a
>receiver it was legal to record it.
>
>I do remember when I was filling out some logs for Nielsen and I
>asked them something like "how do I put things down that I record
>and watch later".
>
>They said they'd call me back. They said I should log those as
>being watched.
>
>At that time there were only between 50,000 and 75,000 VCRs in US
>homes, and mine was a Sony 7200 - 1 hour on $18.00 tapes.
Actually, in 1976, there were 30,000 machines PER YEAR sold. By
1981, it was 1.4 million PER YEAR.
>Technology seems to sneak up on companies like Nielsen when they
>weren't paying attention.
It ain't just Nielsen.
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