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Re: Another JVC disaster?

Posted by Deke on 10/06/22 11:39

"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-DE9487.09254908022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <abfa3$43e988df$943f8239$25394@STARBAND.NET>,
> "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote:
>
> > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:clark.31-A7E7B0.08475907022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > In article <1f3fe$43e833cb$943f8239$27144@STARBAND.NET>,
> > > "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> > > >
news:clark.31-C47994.14313906022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > > > I happened to be unlucky enough to be given a JVC DR-MV1S DVD/VCR
> > > > > recorder as a Christmas present a little over a year ago. The
thing
> > has
> > > > > never worked well; when you could figure out the Byzantine manual,
it
> > > > > still didn't seem to function properly. Finally, and before the
> > warranty
> > > > > ran out, I returned it to JVC In Aurora, IL to be fixed. At the
time
> > > > > there were two issues (that I could find, at least). One, I could
not
> > > > > get a signal to the DVD recorder, other than by dubbing from a
tape in
> > > > > the VCR side, and two, it refused to recognize DVD-RW disks, even
> > though
> > > > > it ha done so for several months.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent it back in mid-December with a note outlining the two
problems.
> > > > > It came back "fixed" ten days later. At least, I thought so. It
turned
> > > > > out it still would not recognize a DVD-RW disk, giving the dreaded
> > "disc
> > > > > error" message. So I called JVC again (another story in itself).
The
> > > > > representative was very helpful when I finally reached him, and
said
> > > > > they would send me a UPS mailer to return it to them in Aurora. I
did
> > > > > this three weeks ago. Since that time, all I see on their repair
site
> > is
> > > > > that it is "waiting for parts". I would far rather have my
original
> > > > > outlay back, and buy a properly functional DVD/VCR, but just to
have
> > > > > this thing sitting in the repair facility with nothing happening
is
> > > > > ridiculous. Oh, yes, and if you e-mail the contact address you
finally
> > > > > find - they just don't bother to answer anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > All I can say is to all readers of this ng - 1) stay away from JVC
> > > > > products until they deal with shoddy design and manufacture, and
2)
> > > > > their service is as bad as their manufacturing. Never again - no
JVC
> > > > > ever in my house.
> > > > >
> > > > > William Clark
> > > >
> > > > Sorry about your experience, but my JVC DR-MV1s has transferred a
ton of
> > VHS
> > > > tapes to DVD, and has been used almost daily for recording on
DVD-RW, as
> > > > back-up for my
> > > > DVR, and its NEVER made a coaster. Its also made more than a few
DVD-R
> > > > copies of
> > > > D-VHS tapes, recorded on my 7 year old JVC HM-DSR100 satellite
reciever.
> > > > I've also transfered some S-VHS tapes
> > > > from my JVC HR-S3900 S-VHS machine to DVD-R. Some of those were
made
> > as
> > > > far back as the late 80's, on a Zenith S-VHS machine, made by JVC,
which
> > > > still works, but has an incredibly slow FF and RW, compared to
machines
> > made
> > > > today.
> > > > My point is, the first production runs of the DR-MV1s seem to have
had
> > some
> > > > software problems.
> > > > But dont condemn a company, because you have a problem with JUST ONE
of
> > > > their products. At least they are trying to repair your machine,
and
> > trust
> > > > me, replacement parts for common failure parts can be hard to come
by.
> > I
> > > > have NEVER had a problem with any of my JVC products.
> > > > JVC still holds the patents for the VHS video recording system.
Every
> > > > company that has ever made a VHS tape machine of any kind, has paid
JVC
> > a
> > > > royalty.
> > > > So give JVC some slack. Go look at one of the JVC D-ILA
> > > > HD televisions, compare it with anything else on the market, and
you'll
> > see
> > > > that JVC still makes some incredible products.
> > > > Just my two cents.
> > > >
> > > > Peace
> > > > Deke
> > >
> > > Oh, I think this would work fine - if it would work. I transferred
some
> > > tapes to DVD and once I figured out the instructions, it did a very
nice
> > > job. The problem is that it is simply unreliable.
> > >
> > > JVC knows full well all the problems that the DR-MV1S has, from the
> > > "loading" hang up on down. When these machines first came out the
trade
> > > magazines gave them a very high rating (on the basis of which my wife
> > > bought one for me). Once the consumer feedback started to accumulate,
> > > those ratings dropped like a stone. JVC should, for the good of their
> > > own image, just have pulled all those, refunded or replaced them with
> > > another model, and learned by the experience. At least, if I send a
unit
> > > back with clear descriptions of the two problems that need to be
fixed,
> > > I don't expect it to come back with one of them untouched. And then
sit
> > > for three weeks in the repair facility on its second go round.
> > >
> > > only wish that my DR-MV1S worked as well as yours does. I hope that,
> > > when I eventually get it back, it will.
> > >
> > > William Clark
> >
> > I sincerly hope it does too. According to the trade papers and mags,
this
> > one machine has become a bit of a thorn in JVC's side. I'm assuming you
> > have a high quality surge/spike protector (or several, in series) that
your
> > equipment is plugged into? Voltage spikes can play hell with
soft/hardware.
> > And as far as your "loading" problem not being fixed when you got it
back
> > from the shop, are you aware that the "loading" problem will sometimes
> > disapear if you unplug (NOT turn off) the unit for a couple hours? The
> > loading problem may not have manifested itself while it was in the
shop.
> > The DR-MV1S does seem to be very sensitive to noisy power lines, and
> > transient spikes.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> > Dennis Kelley
>
> Actually, I don't have the "loading" problem that seems to have been the
> principal scourge of these machines. Mine were to do with a lack of
> signal to the DVD recorder, even though it would record from the same
> source just fine onto its VCR. The service rep. I spoke to seemed to
> think that it was a problem with the DVD tuner. The other one is that it
> won't recognize DVD-RW discs any more (it used to), and gives a "disc
> error" message. I really want to use the DVD-RWs for stuff I either
> don't want to keep forever, or that I want to transfer to my computer to
> edit and process in iMovie. The standard DVD-R discs work fine, but they
> aren't reusable.
>
> At least the annotation against the job on their service site has
> changed from "waiting for parts" to "started" as of yesterday.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> William Clark

The VHS section will only record from the tuner, or the front or rear
composite video inputs, no choice. However, if you try to record on the DVD
side, using the front jacks for example, you have to go into the menus to
tell it which jacks to activate, S video, or composite. Unless you do this,
if you have a composite video input going in to the front jacks, but in the
utility menu you have the front inputs set to S-video, the composite input
remains dead. Switching is not automatic. Same for the back inputs. Sound
familiar?
The manual tells you to do this, (page 67-68) but doesnt tell you how. (duh)
DVD mode-setup-function setup-video in/out-arrow down to
Front Aux F-1-enter-choose s-video or video-setup to exit.
Does this ring any bells?
As for not recognizing DVD-RWs, no clue.
Dennis

 

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