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Posted by w_tom on 10/06/58 11:39
Correctly noted. Your 'primary' protector is installed by the
utility. It should have existed and been earthed long ago. A primary
protector is only a connection to protection. Some pictures of
protection that must be inspected and repaired:
http://www.tvtower.com/fpl.html
You did not have primary and secondary protection? Therefore
protection inside some appliances was overwhelmed.
To be damaged, a transient would be greater than 600 volts. Some
appliances have even better internal protection. Any protection
provided by a plug-in protector was already inside that appliance. By
your own admission, some appliances without plug-in protectors were not
damaged. Again, the mythical 'invisible' protector - or 'real world'
internal appliance protection (as well as where it was connected to a
larger system)? Which was it?
Internal protection also makes household internally generated
transients mythical. In reality, those internally generated transients
are trivial noise. Noise that is 'hyped into major transient by myth
purveyors' promoting plug-in protectors. If household internal
generated transients were destructive, then you are visiting a hardware
store daily to replace clock radios, dimmer switches, and bathroom
GFCIs. In reality, destructive household transients are myths.
Meanwhile a 'whole house' protector would also eliminate household
generated transients. This 'whole house' solution again contradicts
Deke's wild speculation about household generated transients.
But show me Deke? What is the voltage of a transient generated by
each appliance? What are those numbers you forgot to provide? Missing
numbers - a symptom of junk science reasoning.
Secondary protection is the 'whole house' protector. It earths a
few transients that might overwhelm appliance internal protection.
Protection that was defined even with a number. Just like that utility
pole 'primary' protector, 'secondary protector is only as good as its
earth ground.
Remember earth ground? What plug-in protectors neither have nor
discuss because they don't provide effective protection.
This is not about Deke. He has heard Rush Limbaugh types promote
these plug-in protectors and therefore knows all. This is a warning to
others about how and why plug-in protectors get recommended - even when
its manufacture does not make such claims. How does one identify
effective protectors? A protector is only as effective as its earth
ground - ie the above 'primary' and 'secondary' protectors. Plug-in
protectors have no dedicated earthing connection.
Deke, there is no reason for me to file any lawsuit. I am not the
one who assumed it would do what even the manufacturer does not claim.
You are promoting that myth. You should sue yourself because you have
unnecessary damage.
Since protection inside plug-in protectors connects in parallell,
then those protectors should have protected all other household
appliances. Why were those other appliances damaged when you had
plug-in protectors? Or do you promote another myth that power strip
protectors sit between the appliance and a transient - to block or stop
what three miles of sky could not.
Real world protectors are only as effective as its earth ground - why
that utility installed 'primary' protector is earthed.
Deke wrote:
> Where did I say that nothing was damaged? Actually, there was quite a bit
> of damage, from coffee pots, microwave, dryer, washer, waterbed heater, and
> other things I cant recall. But everything that was expensive, or a pain in
> the butt to replace (60" tv, vintage electronics, new electronics, satellite
> receivers, freezers, refrigerator) was plugged into
> surge protectors, and was not harmed. Thats proof enough for me.
> I now also have a surge protector installed at the power pole to my house.
> It was installed by the power coop, but it will only protect transients
> coming thru the power grid, not originating on my side of the meter, such as
> a lightning strike.
> As I said, I live in a very rural area, surge protectors are widely used in
> this area, and they work. Even the local power coop sells the power strip
> type. Most all my neighbors have protectors on their well pumps, and so do
> I.
> If what you say is true, I suggest you file a class action suit against all
> those dirty rotten scamming companies that make surge protectors. Since
> none of them work, according to you, you could be a billionaire.
> Have a nice day.
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