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Posted by Steve King on 02/12/06 17:13
"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:42:02 -0500, Toby wrote
> (in article <43ef3ad8$0$41511$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>):
>
>>
>> "Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:grGdnVi8Wu8qn3PenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:04:04 -0500, Toby wrote
>>> (in article <43edee8b$0$69614$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>):
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mv@movingvision.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:19tE0xMyRL7DFw6j@movingvision.demon.co.uk...
>>>>> In message <11up6l9boh80aff@corp.supernews.com>, Richard Crowley
>>>>> <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> writes
>>>>>> <mv@movingvision.co.uk> wrote ...
>>>>>>> Been making programmes for TV and all sorts for over twenty years
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I've found the short shotgun Sennheiser such as the 416, K3 ME80 and
>>>>>>> K6
>>>>>>> ME88 to be the most useful and broad spectrum mics ever used. Never
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> a problem using them indoors or any other environment, even for the
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> quality demanding broadcasters and quite frankly I quickly learned
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> to invest my professional integrity in what they might say over at
>>>>>>> r.a.m.p.s. Their World is far from definitive!!
>>>>>>> -- John Lubran
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Lubran, we all respect you. It should make no
>>>>>> difference that the r.a.m.p.s people are listed in IMDB
>>>>>> as credited with hundreds of high-profile productions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever Richard, whatever.
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing this for 20 years, and the ME-80s and 416s have always
>>>> worked just fine. Maybe not the best of all possible worlds, but
>>>> they've
>>>> never let me down--it's always been good enough for TV, even some
>>>> fairly
>>>> high-class docos.
>>>>
>>>> Toby
>>>
>>> For interiors?
>>
>> Inside and outside. Again, I stress that we are generally looking for
>> intelligibility, not world-class feature-film sound. There is often no
>> time
>> to switch between mics when following a subject during her/his daily
>> routine. We go with a general-purpose mic, and the 416 is usually what we
>> use, although we used to go with the ME-80 + K3U power supply when the
>> cameras didn't have phantom powering.
>>
>> That has been the case with every network for whom I have worked --CNN,
>> CBS,
>> NBC, ABC, Reuters, BBC, ARD, ZDF, et al. Nobody bothers with
>> hypercardioids
>> in the conditions we work under.
>>
>> Toby
>
> Oh! News. That's different. That's not what we're talking about. News is
> run
> n gun survival mode. When you aren't jammed by your news situation and
> actually have time to set up properly, a hypercardioid for interiors (and
> by
> interiors I'm talking about office and residential spaces) a hyper is an
> audibly obvious winner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
You know, it occurs to me that many of the more strongly expressed opinions
and disagreements on this and even on RAMPS occur between people with very
different perspectives, different needs. (Roberto excepted, because we all
know his perspective. LOL) The newbies don't know how to describe their
needs and their criteria. The experienced pros can't imagine going to work
without their top drawer equipment. Sometimes its amusing to see how many
iterations a thread goes through before people really start to communicate.
Just like life ;-)
Steve King
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