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Posted by Alpha on 03/02/06 08:00
"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 23:33:45 -0800, "Alpha" <x@x.net> Gave us:
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>>"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
>>news:lj5d02995fi4nr7juq9ihcmiabeht73r28@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:41:53 GMT, no@none.com Gave us:
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>>>>On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:43:55 -0500, Impmon <impmon@digi.mon> wrote:
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>>>>>On 1 Mar 2006 04:37:30 -0800, syofcdyagwrq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Story here that copying DVDs for personal backup may be legal under
>>>>>>'fair use', if it uses a method which dodges the DMCA.
>>>>>
>>>>>That is still a grey area. IMO I think personal backup should be
>>>>>allowed as long as you keep the original with the backup (original
>>>>>under lock and key if you wish) and that you should not sell the
>>>>>backup or pass it around.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been debate over fair use for personal backup copy since VCR
>>>>>and computer disks and was never settled because everytime a new
>>>>>format comes out the big companies try to get the court to punish
>>>>>everyone for making a single backup copy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course a backup is legal. When you buy the DVD, you have purchased
>>>>the intellectual property.
>>>
>>> Nope. You have purchased a license to USE the intellectual property
>>> that is imprinted on the disc. Period. You own the plastic and a
>>> right to watch the movie in the plastic.
>>>>
>>>>Indeed, if your copy was destroyed, it would be legal for you to make
>>>>a copy from a rental, friend, etc. because you still own the
>>>>intellectual property.
>>>
>>> Nope. It is legal to make a downconverted copy but a bit for bit
>>> copy is illegal.
>>>
>>>>Of course, if you sold, lost, or gave away the orginal, you no longer
>>>>own it.
>>>
>>> "Destroyed" IS "lost". You want a backup? Buy another disc.
>>>
>>>>As far as disabling copy protection goes, that is illegal. So just
>>>>how you would make the copy is another issue.
>>>
>>> It is illegal to make a bit for bit copy of a DVD.
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>>Not true. It is illegal to defeat the copy protection. Fair use still
>>exists.
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> A bit for bit copy IS illegal as it requires defeating the copy
> protection to get a bit for bit copy.
>
> Try again. Also, fair use is about recording from broadcasts.
It's about a lot more than that. Issues include education, library use,
etc.
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