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Posted by Hammerer on 10/15/96 11:42
"Technomage Hawke" <technomage-hawke@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:UtDRf.13696$Tf3.708@dukeread09
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> Hammerer wrote:
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> > "Technomage Hawke" <technomage-hawke@127.0.0.1> missed the point
> > in message news:1lxRf.13673$Tf3.5636@dukeread09
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> > > since there is some noise about making mp3 illegal (or
> > > otherwiseunlawful to use without paying a patent holder), why not
> > > start using OGG/VORBIS?
> > >
> > Brilliant, TakeNoJam. A legalistic manoeuvre that is Machiavellian in
> > its cunning. I can see that you've put a lot of thought into it, which
> > is admirable. However, your strategy has one small flaw. Well, a *big*
> > flaw, to be honest. You see, it's not the format, as such, that the
> > powers-that-be are worried about. It's the fact that copyrighted
> > material is being encoded into *whatever* format and being disseminated
> > "immorally" and/or "illegally" over the internet. Their words, not
> > mine. You silly person.
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> here's a better one for you, hammerer.
> blind people (and others with disabilities requiring speech synthasis)
> might find themselves being criminalized because the technology that
> allows a blind person to "read" the printed word would be decalred
> "circumvention technology". don't want to believe me?
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What I want to believe is immaterial. "They" don't care if you're blind, or
anything else. All they care about is criminalizing *anyone* that
circumvents their profit-base using "circumvention technology". And that
includes downloading/uploading copyrighted material in OGG-VORBIS format.
Whether you like it or not.
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> take a hard long look at some of the new wording in the DMCA
> and its subsequent acts being enacted as we speak.
> its no longer a matter of what gets distributed where. it has become a
> matter of what technology is used how (and how it can be misused - like
DRM).
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Yes. "They" would consider P2P applications to be perfect examples of the
misuse of technology, if used to download their stuff without their consent.
Even if you encoded stuff in OGG-VORBIS as opposed to MP3. So the answer to
your original question is "it makes no difference".
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> I half expect something like this in the courts one of these soon years:
> "learn to read you blind thief!". I don't much relish this at all.
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I don't think so. They'd no more say that than you'd say "I illegally
downloaded all those pirated audio-books because I'm blind and I can't read
printed books". All you'd have to say would be "guilty", or "innocent",
depending on what kind of evidence they had on you.
MP3 or OGG-VORBIS, makes no difference. It's what's in them that counts.
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