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Posted by FatKat on 03/24/06 20:51
Diablos Rojos wrote:
> "JP" <noone@noone.com> wrote in message
> news:4423f616$0$3615$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >
> > "Diablos Rojos" <M.B.@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:48hpnkFk93ivU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "G8ASO °¿°" <70trees@goodbuddy.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0AtUf.220583$Q22.125316@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>> Anyone having difficulty finding obscure tracks could try
> >>> www.allofmp3.com
> >>>
> >>> It is based in Russia and claims to pay royalties, but tracks are only
> >>> US $0.11 - 0.17 with a full album usually just over US $1.00.
> >>>
> >>> You can choose your file format or select MP3 in 320, on line encoding
> >>> and it downloads almost straight away in superb quality
> >>>
> >>> Not free, but at these prices all the other silly download sites like
> >>> ITunes can get stuffed, I want music at a sensible price, if I can't get
> >>> it free, and in a sensible file format.
> >>>
> >>> www.allofmp3.com is the answer.
> >>>
> >>> I am in no way connected with them, just sharing info.
> >>>
> >>
> >> http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Music/musiclaw5.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Goes a bit into explaining it's legality and the fact that some of the
> >> money that you pay does go to the artists.
> >
> > What a bizarre conclusion.
> > It goes to explain nothing about legality, just assumptions.
> >
> > ''As for the legality of non-Russian clients downloading from allofmp3
> > this is country dependent. In countries with stricter copyright
> > protections its less clear''
> >
> >
> > Just like you assume payments to the artists from a company without even
> > the slightest transparency in their revenue stream.
> > No transparency, no audit trail, all this in a country that has rampant
> > unbriddled corruption.
> >
>
> Have you put any research into this or are you just guessing that because
> the company is Russian based it must be bent?
Actually, that ludicrous article you provided is a great source for
that very conclusion. You have a country that legally allows companies
to distribute media with no mention of whether (in granting that
license) they first approached the purported owners of that media.
Doesn't speak volumes for lawfulness in Russia. Add in that part about
users being on their own in their own countries, and the "bent" goes
further south.
> This is an independent piece and it states that if allofmymp3 has all the
> proper licenses as claimed then they will be paying money to the licensing
> authority who then pay out to the record companies.
They don't have the proper licenses until they get licenses from the
purported owners of the music they are distributing. They can offer
the owners whatever cut they want to, but until the owner agrees, it's
still theft. Do you understand the concept of licensing?
> It also states that under US law the downloading of these MP3's is not illegal as you
> have legally bought them in Russia.
It can state whatever it wants, but the article appears to quote some
un-cited law and given the utter sophistry that underlies the article
as a whole (it's not against the law to import an mp3, therefore, if
you import an MP3 that you wouldn't be allowed to download in America,
but were allowed to get in Russia - bringing that MP3 into the US must
be okay!), the law was probably misquoted if not invented out of whole
cloth.
>
> Considering this is one of the biggest music download sites going you'd
> think that the huge media companies would be doing a bit more about getting
> it closed down or getting access restricted to Russian citizens only if it
> was indeed highly illegal.
Your own article appears to answer that - one of the few plausible
points it makes: record companies are trying to change things in
Russia, but the pace of legislation in Russia is "glacial".
> They however appear to be doing nothing.
There should be a rule that you can't post an article that you haven't
read.
"Instead they are pushing for changes in Russian copyright law but
progress is glacial."
The industry isn't going after specific companies because that strategy
provides little relief here in America where the offending companies
are much closer to the reach of law. Corporations are legal
constructs, as opposed to the money they steal..er...earn. Going after
allofmp3 would likely result in the company simply closing down -
coinciding with the incorporation of a new and totally unrelated
business called stillallofmp3.com which happens to employ the same
people, operate out of the same location, provide the same service,
charge the same rates and piss off the same people. Did you really put
any thought into your prior post?
>
> Good enough for me, cheap CD's!
If you were on WinMX, they'd be cheaper still.
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