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Re: Some notes for P to P peeps, Gd

Posted by Hammerer on 03/29/06 19:52

"Zombie Wolf" <zmbwf@gwi.net> didn't top-post in message
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> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote (twice!) in message
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> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
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> > > But some of you still dont really get a handle on what's going on. the
> > > people on dsl have bought into the "hype" about dsl and how "high
> > > speed" it is, and think they can run 40 or 50 slots for uploads and
downloads,
> > > when all they can really support is about 2 each way.
> >
> > That's strange - I have DSL and I'm sure I'd remember if I'd bought
> > some hype of late. Ofcourse, if I'd actually purchased the hype, it
> > wouldn't take long before I realized that even half as many slots may
> > be about 20 slots too many.
> >
> > > So there they are, churning along slower than a 56k , and you can't
> > > educate them.
> > > They simply wont listen.
> >
> > Most of them don't listen because they've leaving WinMX for Limewire.
> > Not even DC++, which at least looks decent - but Limewire. Strangely,
> > since Limewire's stock rose with the NG's Noobs, my UL/DL speeds have
> > skyrocked, and I'm seriously considering adding another dozen slots.
> >
> > > And a lot of isp's will quote their speeds in kiloBITS, to inflate
> > > their numbers and make you think they are fast, when the fact is, you
> > > have to divide that by 10 to get the actual speed. People also buy
> > > into this schtick, and run 40 or 50 slots.
> >
> > If that were so, I'd never be able to DL anything in a reasonable
> > amount of time - yet I've actually gotten about 3 DVD-R's worth of
> > stuff in the past 2 weeks.
> >
> > > Even the 56k guys, who ought to know better, will routinely try to
> > > run as much as 10 or 15 slots, when they are lucky if they can do a
> > > good job of supporting 1 each way.
> >
> > Having been a 56k guy in the past, I can't recall trying to support
> > anybody - dial-up inspires a sort of selfishness in that respect; get
> > that one DL now because you can always be cut-off.
> >
> > > Like I said, you cannot educate them, I have tried for years on irc to
> > > tell them, and they just dont listen.....
> >
> > It's hard to educate others with uneducated hype.
> >
> uneducated hype ? maybe you better look up what i just got done telling
> you. most dsl connections wont churn much beyond 40 k a second. now, if
> you run 40 slots up and 40 slots down, that leaves 1/2 k per second per
> slot. its simple math, my friend.
>
I think what he's trying to tell you, Zomb, is that despite your ridiculous
assertion that everyone who suddenly upgrades from a 56K modem to DSL will
exponentially increase their slottage for no good reason, HE hasn't.
>
> KILOBITS is a figure commonly used to state upload and download speeds.
> this is how many BITS per second the connection supports. 8 data bits and
> one start bit, and one stop bit, adds up to 10 bits for each BYTE (8
> bits) of data. So you have to divide by 10 to get the ACTUAL speed in
> BYTES of the connection. 56 KILOBITS equals about 5.6 KILOBYTES per
> second.
>
? ....... What the FUCK has that blather got to do with anything?!
>
> I know wherefore i am speaking here.... its your problem if you
> never learned anything about the subject.
>
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