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Posted by FatKat on 03/29/06 20:40
Zombie Wolf top-posted:
> get thier list. the red files are files they are CURRENTLY DOWNLOADING. Now,
> when you get some 56 k user's list (providing you CAN get it) and see 10,
> 15, or 20 red files, you will finally know what is going on. when you get
> some dsl guys list, and get 50 red files listed, you will know all over
> again... try it.... I get this all the time. what do you think ? that i
> "invented" this goddamn problem, or what ???? I have seen this every friggin
> DAY for a COUPLE OF YEARS. wake up - smell the coffee....
I'm wide awake, and what I'm smelling on this NG ain't the coffee. I
don't typically browse my users but when I do, I don't see the masses
of active downloading files - I do see a large number of incompletes,
but those aren't active downloads. I browsed myself once and saw large
numbers of red files, even though I was only downloading about three at
the time. As for your speed problem, I think you might have invented
it by browsing so many users on such a frequent basis. And BTW, who
the fuck says "friggin" anymore?
>
> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:1143663054.406472.60440@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
> >> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1143658502.230572.120150@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
> >> >> But some of you still dont really get a handle on what's going on. the
> >> >> people on dsl have bought into the "hype" about dsl and how "high
> >> >> speed"
> >> >> it
> >> >> is, and think they can run 40 or 50 slots for uploads and downloads,
> >> >> when
> >> >> all they can really support is about 2 each way.
> >> >
> >> > That's strange - I have DSL and I'm sure I'd remember if I'd bought
> >> > some hype of late. Ofcourse, if I'd actually purchased the hype, it
> >> > wouldn't take long before I realized that even half as many slots may
> >> > be about 20 slots too many.
> >> >
> >> >> So there they are, churning along slower than a 56k , and you can't
> >> >> educate them.
> >> >> They simply wont listen.
> >> >
> >> > Most of them don't listen because they've leaving WinMX for Limewire.
> >> > Not even DC++, which at least looks decent - but Limewire. Strangely,
> >> > since Limewire's stock rose with the NG's Noobs, my UL/DL speeds have
> >> > skyrocked, and I'm seriously considering adding another dozen slots.
> >> >
> >> >> And a lot of isp's will quote their speeds in kiloBITS, to inflate
> >> >> their
> >> >> numbers and make you think they are fast, when the fact is, you have
> >> >> to
> >> >> divide that by 10 to get the actual speed. People also buy into this
> >> >> schtick, and run 40 or 50 slots.
> >> >
> >> > If that were so, I'd never be able to DL anything in a reasonable
> >> > amount of time - yet I've actually gotten about 3 DVD-R's worth of
> >> > stuff in the past 2 weeks.
> >> >
> >> >> Even the 56k guys, who ought to know better, will routinely try to run
> >> >> as
> >> >> much as 10 or 15 slots, when they are lucky if they can do a good job
> >> >> of
> >> >> supporting 1 each way.
> >> >
> >> > Having been a 56k guy in the past, I can't recall trying to support
> >> > anybody - dial-up inspires a sort of selfishness in that respect; get
> >> > that one DL now because you can always be cut-off.
> >> >
> >> >> Like I said, you cannot educate them, I have tried for years on irc to
> >> >> tell
> >> >> them, and they just dont listen.....
> >> >
> >> > It's hard to educate others with uneducated hype.
> >> >
> >> uneducated hype ? maybe you better look up what i just got done telling
> >> you.
> >> most dsl connections wont churn much beyond 40 k a second. now, if you
> >> run
> >> 40 slots up and 40 slots down, that leaves 1/2 k per second per slot. its
> >> simple math, my friend.
> >
> > Maybe you need to re-read the above, my friend - you did more than
> > crunched numbers, instead claiming that DSL and dial-up users are
> > ignorant. That's the uneducated hype - in simple english.
> >>
> >> KILOBITS is a figure commonly used to state upload and download speeds.
> >> this
> >> is how many BITS per second the connection supports. 8 data bits and one
> >> start bit, and one stop bit, adds up to 10 bits for each BYTE (8 bits) of
> >> data. So you have to divide by 10 to get the ACTUAL speed in BYTES of the
> >> connection. 56 KILOBITS equals about 5.6 KILOBYTES per second. I know
> >> wherefore i am speaking here.... its your problem if you never learned
> >> anything about the subject.
> >
> > It's your problem if you can't get your facts straight - if the problem
> > of ignorant users was as widespread as you suggest, nobody would be
> > able to move any amount of media in a reasonably short period.
> >
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