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Posted by FatKat on 03/29/06 20:42
Zombie Wolf top-posted:
> and when you see some 56k guy listed as having "10 slots available", and
> some dsl guy advertising 40 slots, you will have finally un-stiffened and
> your brain will be semi- functional !
Sorry, I prefer a brain that's stiffened by proper exercize. Yours
must have lovehandles.
>
> "Zombie Wolf" <zmbwf@gwi.net> wrote in message
> news:BKqdnUKEdKlyd7fZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > get thier list. the red files are files they are CURRENTLY DOWNLOADING.
> > Now, when you get some 56 k user's list (providing you CAN get it) and see
> > 10, 15, or 20 red files, you will finally know what is going on. when you
> > get some dsl guys list, and get 50 red files listed, you will know all
> > over again... try it.... I get this all the time. what do you think ? that
> > i "invented" this goddamn problem, or what ???? I have seen this every
> > friggin DAY for a COUPLE OF YEARS. wake up - smell the coffee....
> >
> > "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> > news:1143663054.406472.60440@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Zombie Wolf wrote:
> >>> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1143658502.230572.120150@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> >>> >
> >>> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
> >>> >> But some of you still dont really get a handle on what's going on.
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> people on dsl have bought into the "hype" about dsl and how "high
> >>> >> speed"
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> is, and think they can run 40 or 50 slots for uploads and downloads,
> >>> >> when
> >>> >> all they can really support is about 2 each way.
> >>> >
> >>> > That's strange - I have DSL and I'm sure I'd remember if I'd bought
> >>> > some hype of late. Ofcourse, if I'd actually purchased the hype, it
> >>> > wouldn't take long before I realized that even half as many slots may
> >>> > be about 20 slots too many.
> >>> >
> >>> >> So there they are, churning along slower than a 56k , and you can't
> >>> >> educate them.
> >>> >> They simply wont listen.
> >>> >
> >>> > Most of them don't listen because they've leaving WinMX for Limewire.
> >>> > Not even DC++, which at least looks decent - but Limewire. Strangely,
> >>> > since Limewire's stock rose with the NG's Noobs, my UL/DL speeds have
> >>> > skyrocked, and I'm seriously considering adding another dozen slots.
> >>> >
> >>> >> And a lot of isp's will quote their speeds in kiloBITS, to inflate
> >>> >> their
> >>> >> numbers and make you think they are fast, when the fact is, you have
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> divide that by 10 to get the actual speed. People also buy into this
> >>> >> schtick, and run 40 or 50 slots.
> >>> >
> >>> > If that were so, I'd never be able to DL anything in a reasonable
> >>> > amount of time - yet I've actually gotten about 3 DVD-R's worth of
> >>> > stuff in the past 2 weeks.
> >>> >
> >>> >> Even the 56k guys, who ought to know better, will routinely try to
> >>> >> run as
> >>> >> much as 10 or 15 slots, when they are lucky if they can do a good job
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> supporting 1 each way.
> >>> >
> >>> > Having been a 56k guy in the past, I can't recall trying to support
> >>> > anybody - dial-up inspires a sort of selfishness in that respect; get
> >>> > that one DL now because you can always be cut-off.
> >>> >
> >>> >> Like I said, you cannot educate them, I have tried for years on irc
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> tell
> >>> >> them, and they just dont listen.....
> >>> >
> >>> > It's hard to educate others with uneducated hype.
> >>> >
> >>> uneducated hype ? maybe you better look up what i just got done telling
> >>> you.
> >>> most dsl connections wont churn much beyond 40 k a second. now, if you
> >>> run
> >>> 40 slots up and 40 slots down, that leaves 1/2 k per second per slot.
> >>> its
> >>> simple math, my friend.
> >>
> >> Maybe you need to re-read the above, my friend - you did more than
> >> crunched numbers, instead claiming that DSL and dial-up users are
> >> ignorant. That's the uneducated hype - in simple english.
> >>>
> >>> KILOBITS is a figure commonly used to state upload and download speeds.
> >>> this
> >>> is how many BITS per second the connection supports. 8 data bits and one
> >>> start bit, and one stop bit, adds up to 10 bits for each BYTE (8 bits)
> >>> of
> >>> data. So you have to divide by 10 to get the ACTUAL speed in BYTES of
> >>> the
> >>> connection. 56 KILOBITS equals about 5.6 KILOBYTES per second. I know
> >>> wherefore i am speaking here.... its your problem if you never learned
> >>> anything about the subject.
> >>
> >> It's your problem if you can't get your facts straight - if the problem
> >> of ignorant users was as widespread as you suggest, nobody would be
> >> able to move any amount of media in a reasonably short period.
> >>
> >
> >
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